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dSKyNafinchin
Hero (Retired)
4 years ago

Cloaking Legend

I'm sure this has been brought up before, but why in the world have they not implemented some sort of cloaking Legend, with the addition of all the new scanning Legends that have been added? It seems like a no-brainer to me, but maybe I'm crazy? I'm not sure if it would be more balanced/work better as a passive, tactical or ult, but I definitely feel like it would be a nice change of pace. I'm not familiar with Titanfall, but maybe there's a pilot or something, that had a similar capability that they could carry over to Apex? 

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  • dSKyNafinchin's avatar
    dSKyNafinchin
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago
    @hayhor Haha dang it, I forgot about Mirage! I meant cloaking more as, an ability/passive that renders you invisible to enemy scan abilities, similar to the ghost perk keeping you off enemy radars on CoD. Just something to combat all the enemy scan abilities. Mirage can still be scanned while ult'd, I think? I mean, it scans all the clones, but still scans them. I cant remember if scans pick up Mirage while rez-cloaked or not, either.
  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    4 years ago

    Against scan, Mirage's current ult is arguably better, sending all sorts of people everywhere.

    He's always been fun and popular, moreso now.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @KelRiever He is more effective against scans now, that's for sure but he also hurts teammates because of all the footstep audio. The issue with disappearing original mirage was his footstep audio gave him away. Plus people would disappear right in front of you and then cry you knew where they went when you shot where it was obvious. If you disappeared behind cover and entered a noisy area you could make some great plays. But people don't do stuff like that. They just run in and complain when they die, which the current mirage allows more of.
  • Imo the character would need a heavy as f'ck penalty to have it as a ability in general, current Mirage gets away from it because he only can do it in a passive situation "reviving teammates, respawning them, or when he's down." and og Mirage only had it in his ult, and it was designed as a runaway tactic. I was surprised when RoCo released their own stealth character "I know the two games have clear as day differences but they both have teamwork as a focus" but the devs quickly pointed out her counters in the dev stream "unable to shoot while cloaked and ironically vulnerable to scanning - ther's 6 characters who can scan generally including herself and only 1 them is near braindead as bloodhound, gives off a signal when the ability is activated nearby and she kicks up dust in some areas.  "  Bringing it to back apex, how would you stop a character who can't be seen, and can't be scanned ? Killing mobility would normally do it, but apex kills the idea when other legends could taxi the character around, and you can forget about enjoying the character if a cheater runs around the map using them and balance goes out the window as soon as a large amount of people scream nerf. The closet the game would probably do well with is if a defensive character had a device that cloaked a small area "think Gibby bubble" so teammates could heal, revive or trade and loot. The device get's disrupted by loud sound so people won't try shooting out of it and like mirage give of a faint color so eagle eyed players are able to spot it.

  • They'd rather give basically every legend scan features and offer no counter, or so it seems.

    Even just a legend that simply has scan immunity as a passive would be epic frankly.

  • @dSKyNafinchin the audio is already broken with no footsteps sound, most of the time you can not hear any footsteps of someone approaching until you hear caustic breathing down your neck if they add a legend that can disappear people will be shooting the air just to make sure that no one is there.
  • dSKyNafinchin's avatar
    dSKyNafinchin
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago
    @hayhor @MandatoryIDtag @jaygates879 @maximas1986 @KelRiever

    Great feedback, all! The more I thought about it over the weekend though, I definitely feel like it would need to be either a tac/ult ability (not passive), and would obviously need to have a cooldown/effect time in line with the scanning abilities that it is countering. Also, I feel like it would be too powerful if it canceled enemy pings AND cloaked the user visually, so I wouldn't even include that in the kit. Just have it counter the scans only.

    My main reason for the cloaking not being a passive, is just that it would be too powerful to have it be constant. I don't recall any current scan abilities having constant effect (even Seer has to ADS to use it, although there is not cooldown), so it wouldn't make sense to me to have this one constant. As a tac/ult, it would still be powerful, but the timing/cooldown aspect would (theoretically) keep the balance in check. Maybe also have it to where it doesn't cancel out the effect if you are already scanned, that way if BH/Seer scan you before you hit it, they can still see you like normal. Maybe let Valk see them with her ult, so there is at least 1 counter? Not sure. I haven't thought about that one enough yet, to form my opinion

    I have to agree about the Mirage footstep audio. My buddy is a Mirage main, and I have to deal with that all the dang time, Lmao! It is definitely great at distracting the enemy, but also hinders our own team a bit, sometimes.

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