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@hayhor There's a lot of people that still leave to avoid deaths. Just today in the same match I got to watch a Wraith portal (because we third partied her) stand completely still, then turn into a death box. The second guy got respawned literally 20 meters away from that Wraith, and as Octane, tried to Q and hop the ledge while quitting. I tagged them for 3 damage with a Charge Rifle as they hopped, and was very confused for a second as to why he was so low health after just being respawned.
I do it too sometimes, not expressly to increase K/D, but moreso because I can't stand the people I'm playing with anymore. Did it just now on my last game with some pre-made who left me to 1v3 and would only join the fight after I went down.
- @Peri_Longbow_plz Might wanna read my post again. A person dropping solo and leaving you alone doesn't happen that often, you are just heavily exaggerating the numbers here. That's my point. It doesn't happen often, so the leaver penalty won't affect you enough if you don't leave at every chance you can get.
I have 15k lifetime games and I have seen my fair share of solo rambos who leave the team behind to either loot for 10 mins or go solo and die. You are only providing extreme cases here. I have left maybe less than 5% games in my lifetime and so I am not the one who is gonna be affected extremely by the leaver penalty.
Guess who? People who leave as soon as they are downed, people who go solo and die, then insta quit. They are the ones who will have to suffer the consequences. Because they do it a lot.
And that's what we are asking for. Maybe make a system where repeated offense gives you a harsh penalty. If you don't leave games as you claim, you have nothing to worry about. - @DoYaSeeMe That's a pretty bad take. Jumping 200 metres away, you are leaving your team in a 2v3 and then setting yourself up for a nice 1v3 gangbang. If you are getting contested by a single squad(or even two in a big POI), your best bet is to land very close to each other.
Now there are situations that happen sometimes like say 6 teams is dropping in the same POI, then it's common sense to tell the team to back out to a nearby POI. If they don't, that's a different story. Again doesn't happen every game. Very extreme situation. Not enough to validate your stance. - damsonwhufndthis5 years agoSeasoned Ace
Jeez u guys are quite the chatties, I'm too lazy to read 3 pages of text lol, but anyway regarding abandon penalty, the cooldown before you can leave could be really short, so that there at least is some kind of penalty, even if it's only 10 seconds after you die..
What do I mean by that? First 10 seconds after you die you get penalty, after 10s you won't.
- @DreamStare07 As extreme as bad drops in Apex, yes :P
There is literally a much more simple way to make this work. With systems like "You can't enter another match for X minutes" or even loss of XP which I'm not sure how it would work considering leveling up provides Legend Token and/or Apex loot boxes, you have a high chance of punishing people wrongfully. Especially with the current connection issues, it happens quite a few times that I end up alone or only with a second person in a squad. Which itself isn't bad but let's be honest, that other guy might also have only had a crash, and now gets punished for it.
Simply give the squad that was left behind a buff for the match. Like 10% incoming damage reduction for 1 person and 20% incoming damage reduction for 2 persons missing. Minor enough to not encourage or influence balance, major enough for squads that were left behind to still turn something into their favor. Plus, for the upcoming no-fill mode it would be another way to compensate for a proper lack of solo mode.
If you really wanna punish the people who leave frequently, simply attach a stat on their public viewable profile that shows the abandon ratio.
- @Peri_Longbow_plz Ranked has a feature called 'loss forgiveness' that let's you leave with no RP loss if you get only one teammate/get a connection issue. That's not your fault if you wish to leave, so that's beside the point. Same feature in pubs so you won't be punished for that.
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