Do We Really Need Hop Ups?
I've been thinking about this lately. Them getting rid of choke & putting on the weapons was one of the best decisions they made. And now I'm wondering if we need hop-ups at all? Like why not just sl...
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@Lord_Scorpion34 I think some guns are more dependent on the hop ups than others.
The wingman is not terrible without a SP, but it helps make the gun that much better. Where as the P2020 absolutely requires one.
Lots of people claim the Havoc needs one, but honestly it's not terrible without it. It's only terrible without it if you end up in a CQC situation vs a mastiff, 99 or volt. But a Havoc with no turbo vs a flatline or 301 is not bad at all. The Turbo just makes the gun amazing.
Double Tap, lots of people don't use it. But I turn it on in closer combat and shut it off for longer range shoot outs.
Eva 8 is another gun that requires it.
The prowler before it was a CP weapon, it was not bad without the hop up. But the hop up just made it that much better.
The wingman is not terrible without a SP, but it helps make the gun that much better. Where as the P2020 absolutely requires one.
Lots of people claim the Havoc needs one, but honestly it's not terrible without it. It's only terrible without it if you end up in a CQC situation vs a mastiff, 99 or volt. But a Havoc with no turbo vs a flatline or 301 is not bad at all. The Turbo just makes the gun amazing.
Double Tap, lots of people don't use it. But I turn it on in closer combat and shut it off for longer range shoot outs.
Eva 8 is another gun that requires it.
The prowler before it was a CP weapon, it was not bad without the hop up. But the hop up just made it that much better.
@DarthValtrexI prefer the Hav with turbo cuz it does make a difference getting that 1st shot sometimes.I just feel like they should at least test all of the weapons being built in with them. It def benefited the Triple Take & PK.
I'm actually the opposite with DT on the G7. I use it for longer range & turn it off for closer range. On the Eva for me I just need a purple bolt &7 I'm good. Don't necessarily need DT on it but it's nice sometimes.
@Koochi-QI've never used the Hav as a long range weapon. I feel the other ARs are easier to use for that. I get what you're saying about the Devo but there's still people who won't run them. And brinng on the double Prowlers! I'll take them on with double Volts or 99s 😆😆😆! And abilities is what the game's about kinda. It's what makes the game a lil different from other BRs.
@hayhorwhat did I do? 😅😅😅 If it's about the havoc pllease show me the way lol. I only use turbo on it.The problem is a lot of weapons are gimped without a hop up.
G7 and EVA are pretty useless without double tap unless its the first 2 minutes of the match. And then without one, they are awful. P2202 same thing as mentioned.
Fast draw is really not so amazing, and definitely not a replacement for skull piercer on the wingman.
Old wingman people thought was OP because...oh no...someone hit you with aim. Now a wingman just isn't good at all with hit reg problems unless it has the skull piercer. And then, really, you're still better off with other guns.
A Longbow without skull piercer? Lel
A Moz with or without after the first 2 minutes? lel.
So...with the state of weapons the way they are now, yes, pretty much, everything that needs a hop up should come with one. The only exception to the rule is the spin up for energy weapons. It's the only hop up in the game I can see makes a weapon much better. Again, tho, since the Havoc nerf, that weapon is once again bad...and you also shouldn't have to decide between a spin up and a select fire like it was for a while (gone since Prowler, I believe).
Attachments are something I'm not generally a fan of, anyway, in Apex. But if you have them, they should be common across many types of weapons, such as barrel mods, sights, stocks and magazines are now. I don't even think I ping most hop ups anymore for team mates because it isn't worth it.
- @KelRiever I agree Quickdraw isn't that useful. They didn't even record voice lines for it lol.
