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This is the current position on smurfing afaik from apex hideouts.
"So does this mean I can get banned for doing the “Solo to masters in all legend”?
" No. This is intended for players that abuse the system and create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies. Having one smurf to do a grind like that will not get you banned"
https://mobile.twitter.com/rspn_hideouts/status/1390020385706364929
The question put to Conor was about a ranked challenge. He replied
"create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies."
To me, it seems to be very specifically about banning farming pub or farming ranked smurfs, who are specifically and persistently wipeing out lower level lobbies for whatever reason. Not ranked challenge smurfs who are passing through.
I used to think all smurfing was bannable, until I saw Hideouts clarification. I don't know why such a distinction was made.
I think they probably are destroying noob lobbies at the beginning, but after a short while they are no longer in noob lobbies. You have to get to level 50 to start ranked, so you have to make some effort to get there quick and would get put on the top lobbies of whatever level you are at, because of that.
How many players actually do a ranked grind to master like that? Not that many I would think.
Idk but there must be a much bigger issue, visible in the data, with a larger number of players creating new accounts on a constant basis, purely to farm noob pub lobbies, constantly ruining those lobbies, probably to ruin the novice experience, much like trolling.
Would they put the effort in to get to level 50 before losing interest and starting afresh?
With the accounts being free, it seems to me to be more of a moral position that has been taken to try and protect genuine new players, as against hacks etc which is imo actual cheating.
Ranked reset itself creates a smurf issue, where I was recently stomped by a premade previous x2 season master trio in silver III.
Changing an account platform creates the same issue, with no cross progression.
Neither could be considered cheating imo.
Smurfing is frowned on but not a bannable offence unless in very specific circumstances. I have learned its not a simple issue.
I’m calling it now, the recent public matchmaking change is going to result in an uptick of smurfs.
- 2 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:I’m calling it now, the recent public matchmaking change is going to result in an uptick of smurfs.
Which would support the “bUt yOu gUys jUst wAnT tO sToMp nOobs!” argument that many of us have been making.
- 2 years ago
@LaughingSharkoWell, people are going to want to play in lobbies other than the one’s they are in. That doesn’t mean they’re looking to exclusively play actual noobs. I don’t support the behavior, but if more people start creating alternate accounts to escape predator level pubs, I actually do understand it.
Again, I don’t support a predator wiping out 59 other brand new players, but I do support a variety of skills in a non-ranked match/mode.Also there surely are some people that just genuinely want to be jerks and crush bad players game after game after game. But that is definitely not the majority of players that I actively discuss matchmaking with. Most just want outcomes in accordance with their deviation from the average skill level.
- hayhor2 years agoHero@Axs5626Sxa5001 And then they'll be right back in the extreme lobbies after a few games of stomping noobs. If MM is stricter now it won't take long.
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