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This is the current position on smurfing afaik from apex hideouts.
"So does this mean I can get banned for doing the “Solo to masters in all legend”?
" No. This is intended for players that abuse the system and create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies. Having one smurf to do a grind like that will not get you banned"
https://mobile.twitter.com/rspn_hideouts/status/1390020385706364929
The question put to Conor was about a ranked challenge. He replied
"create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies."
To me, it seems to be very specifically about banning farming pub or farming ranked smurfs, who are specifically and persistently wipeing out lower level lobbies for whatever reason. Not ranked challenge smurfs who are passing through.
I used to think all smurfing was bannable, until I saw Hideouts clarification. I don't know why such a distinction was made.
I think they probably are destroying noob lobbies at the beginning, but after a short while they are no longer in noob lobbies. You have to get to level 50 to start ranked, so you have to make some effort to get there quick and would get put on the top lobbies of whatever level you are at, because of that.
How many players actually do a ranked grind to master like that? Not that many I would think.
Idk but there must be a much bigger issue, visible in the data, with a larger number of players creating new accounts on a constant basis, purely to farm noob pub lobbies, constantly ruining those lobbies, probably to ruin the novice experience, much like trolling.
Would they put the effort in to get to level 50 before losing interest and starting afresh?
With the accounts being free, it seems to me to be more of a moral position that has been taken to try and protect genuine new players, as against hacks etc which is imo actual cheating.
Ranked reset itself creates a smurf issue, where I was recently stomped by a premade previous x2 season master trio in silver III.
Changing an account platform creates the same issue, with no cross progression.
Neither could be considered cheating imo.
Smurfing is frowned on but not a bannable offence unless in very specific circumstances. I have learned its not a simple issue.
"I don't know why such a distinction was made."
Perhaps among those who usually do such challenge are somehow known streamers?
Just guessing.
- OldTreeCreeper2 years agoHero+
Idk, but with level 50 now needed for ranked and the 10 placement games, I imagine there are very few of them and they just rise through the ranks very quickly and are not perceived as a problem.
How many swap over from one platform to another, again probably not that many, and would quickly be put in higher lobbies in pubs.
Ranked now starts everybody off in rookie, again they would go into higher lobbies very quickly.
Whereas continually rereging to farm new players is clearly a problem.
- 2 years ago
Why you believe that ? Accounts are dirt cheap you do not really believe they lvl those accounts themself in their off stream time do you ?
thoose accounts are usually botted wich means their mmr will be as low as possible and are perfect for such challenges.
smurfing will be a problem till respawn does something vs botaccounts and account selling
@OldTreeCreeper
- hayhor2 years agoHero
@VdstrkThey put out a statement about smurfing because people were complaining about reporting smurfs and them never being banned.
The simplest explanation respawn has given is this: People are allowed to make new accounts. But people are not allowed to purposely throw games on those accounts to try and keep them in low level lobbies. What was happening was some smurfs were having a good game and then purposely dying in many games just to get another easy big game. It was a way of circumventing the long term portion of the sbmm equation.
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