I just heard Daniel Klein got fired. Is this true or is this just a rumor?
Anyone have any actual news on this?
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@OldTreeCreeper Yeah we knew that when it came out. It doesnt help when he interacts with the community in a negative way, which is what he was doing recently in response to criticism. So then he became a target and people dug it up. He was let go from riot a few years ago for similar.
Good lesson for the kids out there tho. If you post things online they can bite you later in life.
Good lesson for the kids out there tho. If you post things online they can bite you later in life.
@hayhor Give a breakdown! I’m not watching a vid! I did read the posts treecreeper linkposted :P
You’ll gey xp if you breakdown what’s said in vid ^.^
You’ll gey xp if you breakdown what’s said in vid ^.^
@Koochi-Qjust the first bit
It is official and confirmed by DZK himself. But I think this is an exaggerated drama. Those essays aren't that big of a deal. I've read them and they feel to me as if he was trying too much to shock readers and that's about it. It's a big stretch to call him a racist or misogynist based on those alone, but society is waaay too sensitive right now. Also, it doesn't feel right to me to get fired over something that has nothing to do with his work, so I hope there was something more behind Respawn's reasoning , otherwise this raises some big red flags. What's next, people getting fired for having different religions or political views?
- @DoYaSeeMe Yeah, this is how I feel too.
And I can rattle off a few reasons that I actually don’t like DZK as the head of Apex— none of them involve past essays I didn’t know existed. Getting fired for THOSE things just feels— silly?
Society is in a very weird spot right now. That’s all I will say without going further into any sort of political conversation.
I genuinely wonder how this will impact Apex. I’ve pretty much only played Apex for the past two years but this latest Seer meta really has me looking for gaming enjoyment in other places. Downloaded Splitgate and I’m having a ball. It might be time for me to move on. Hopefully Apex improves though...
Well that might be taken as dark humor (but I prefer it with better bad taste), but for someone depicting himself as a "social justice wendigo" if find it ironical.
Yet I think if he was dropped for such reasons when it was already known at the time Respawn hired him it would be an unfair move.
There were other reasons to drop him (someone said he might have been only part of the bad changes but a leader makes decisions and choices over propositions. If propositions are not good enough he asks for reworks. I agree game is not so bad but there were some dubious choices (seer is one, I like some of the ideas but it's like a five years old wrote the list of powers. Some goes for valk. They came from "pretty specific abilities giving three graduated powers" to "all around free lunch abilities" (Valk flight is not better; its almost permanent and reloads very fast. If you're not dumb you won't use it to be a moving target so it negates drawback).
Plus the guy couldn't be open to criticism and this is the worse flaw for someone in his position.
So good he was taken down, but not for such reasons.
- @Koochi-Q It is like 4 minutes. And I'm not in a good way with what I got going here so just watch it. lol
- @hayhor Watched vid... laughed...
Really, really, really stupid, but funny. That eve thing, wow... just wow.
But it’s funny how quickly ppl go for the ‘he’s almost 30, he can’t say such things!’ without taking into account the time of writing.
If someone said the same thing in 1950’s, he’d be a ‘normal outspoken man’. Now, nahhh it’s slander, misogynistic. I get that it’s offensive, but it’s ‘creative writing’. Look at most male artists (vocal), if we go by what they say about women, sex and everything in between, they’re all misogynistic or offensive.
I think a person should be free to say what he wants, except if it’s directed at somebody. Everything nowadays can upset someone. Heck even religious stuff is cause for most bloodshed since the dawn of time. For this reason I don’t think D. should have been fired from his job, but knowing the times we live in, if he wasn’t fired, the company would get bad press and likely even protests and/or a petition rally.
That being said, companies are very careful nowadays. I remember that it started years ago that companies actually looked ppl up before accepting them for a job interview. If you had ‘indecent’ photos swirling online, companies would just blatantly ignore or tell you you weren’t right for the company. Indecent pics were anything from you at a certain party or just having a good time in a club to actually nude pics. This would even be if those pics were years old.
