Input based matchmaking and permanent xim bans
Need input based matchmaking asap as well as coding to detect xim user... Tired of playing against kb+m cheats all night long
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@jobe95 wrote:I agree, seperate the xim users and keep it a level playing field. EA would win back so much lost respect from the playerbase if the did this. Just look what happened last october regarding fortnite and xim not working, the playerbase loved it......until the xim developer found a workaround and epic didnt bother anymore. Definitely would be a chance for apex to stand out from pubg and fortnite where they failed. Plus lets be honest the only ones complaining and stating xim isnt cheating are the xim users. And yes xim is detectable, at least on xbox.
Is using a steering wheel cheating on Forza? That would be a nope. Are all steering wheel input devices made by Microsoft? Again nope! Do any third party companies that make steering wheel controllers get banned for making a better input device for driving games? Again guess what, NOPE! The Xim movements are sent thru and translated thru the controller. Meaning simply the keyboard and mouse movements go thru the Xim then thru the controller so to make sure those movements can’t exceed anything that a controller can’t do. Sure, it can do it a hell of a lot better. But, sorry if you choose to use a device that is less capable of doing a job then another. I’ll use a steering wheel when playing Forza and I don’t get separated into any “Steering Wheel” only servers. And to be honest I’ve never heard any controller players on Forza whining about steering wheel users like FPS players do. So I’m personally not asking any Xim user to apologize for playing a game how they choose!
And as far as EA winning back respect or player base if they did what you ask. I think if EA just enables native Keyboard and Mouse input for the game, which both Xbox and PS4 are capable of. They would win ten times the number of players that would come over from PC because they are tired of all the hacks and cheats that PC players have to deal with. And I do believe this will happen soon. Times change, input devices change. Adapt, overcome, improvise.
@LtHitlisIt is this attitude that will ruin console. Want M&K? Play PC. People who use M&K are trying to gain an advantage. As for the people who deny the hack issue on PS4 and XBox, they are probably ones who use it. Common answer, “I never see it”.....Maybe your in lobbies that are too low. The higher up you get the more you see it. Lots of Preds use M&K, hell I’ve even had Pred randoms tell me so and advise what I should buy. Most common I see rapid fire and anti recoil.....Spectate, you can tell when they have slight screen jitter as the setting is too high.
This is an issue for all FPS games, not just Apex. I do have faith that EA / Respawn will do something. What will be unforgivable is if this exists on PS5!
- @SquishyVader Have you see the internal components of the Xbox One, PS4, Xbox Series X, PS5? They are PC’s! These are not the consoles of years ago. These are PC’s with less an option to get into the OS and manipulate files for hacks and cheats. I did the PC gaming for years and will NEVER return to that money pit of having to upgrade motherboards, video cards, processor, memory, sound cards ever couple of year’s to try and stay at a competitive level of frames per seconds (FPS). Not to mention dying to wall hacks, aim bots, god mode, no recoil hacks, radar hacks, and many other hacks available to be hack on a PC OS. So know this. I WILL ALWAYS use a keyboard and mouse on console, which is allowed and NOT a violation of Microsoft’s (Xbox) or Sony’s (PlayStation) TOS (terms of service). So it’s simple, choose what ever controller you want or are better with and I’ll choose mine. I’ve been using a Xim for over 10 years since the original Xim came out for the first Xbox. And it seems Xbox and PlayStations have maintained there need and player base. Choose how you want to play and I’ll choose how I want to play. Enjoy my friend.
- @LtHitlis I don’t care how you want dress. M&K gives a clear advantage. The aim assist for controllers are not intended for M&K. Your stats mean zip when you are playing with this advantage. In my opinion it is intentional to gain an advantage and therefore is cheating.
- @SquishyVader Then you choose to use a less accurate device. Your choice. Mine is legal and allowed. Stop whining.
The only thing they can and should do is allows native m&k then make separate lobbies. Sure people could still use Emulator and play in controller lobbies. But you'd want to play in native lobbies because you're getting that 1:1 m&k experience. Currently using a emulator on console there's input lag between the devices and users are not getting the same experience as they would on PC.
So if they able native m&k with separate lobbies you'd plug directly into your console instead of an Emulator and get a better experience.
- @DankToliet Game manufacturers will never purposely split the player base of any game. When they do that game queue increases, which leads to the sooner death of a game. Guys it’s pretty simple. If you enjoy playing with a controller more then play with a controller. If you enjoy k/m then play with a k/m. If you think your better with one then the other then choose the other. But, don’t blame people because they choose different then you.
- @LtHitlis They already do, MW has the option to enable or disable cross play in the options.
