just watched shroud Alt -F4 Apex ... yeah its that BAD!

@Wingmannedbro You really believe streamers/pros wouldn't stop playing an fps because of cheaters? hahaha

CS:GO almost died as a game when cheaters completely infested it. Same with pubg, same with fortnite. No coincidence?

And streamers stopped playing them at those times, because it's exhausting to face scrubs that can't aim on their own.

"It had literally nothing at all to do with hackers or stream snipers whatsoever." That's very questionable.

p.s. I've heard every top apex streamer, including Shroud complain to no end about cheaters. So your statement falls flat right there. It's just clear they try their best to keep it under wraps.

Why do you think he would stop playing it? A little lag? please. he plays pubg.

chase them away there alll gone... the ones that are left streaming this game and or playing are soft aimbotters and wall hackers twitch allows it the game devs it self cant stop it... we are getting no new content updates and .... UPDATES that was suppose to fix * made it worse .....stock market has crashed the devs them selvs say there not in a hurry to do anything about the game.... so if your still playing [pc] side then your either new , oblivious, or botting 

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@d3adc3II wrote:
@RichAC

Don't get it wrong, I also think ranking system is good if they implement it properly. But believe me when I say this forum will be flooded with rants and complaints as soon as they intro ranking now.
Why?

Ranked mode suppose to bring good players with similar ranks together. But it actually will bring more hackers to play with high ranked players lolz. It will chase those good player away or they choose unranked mode, no one want to die to the hacker and lose rank. In this current stage, it will definitely happen.

imo, apex.tracker.gg is all about grinding lol. If a world class player only plays 1 or 2 days per week, there is no chance for him to get higher position in the leaderboard. You need to play 12hrs a day to get that.
Most famous streamers/players dun even care bout it, but unknown/unpopular ppl see it as a chance to be recognized.

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I don't see the problem.

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@LockOutz_YT wrote:

chase them away there alll gone... the ones that are left streaming this game and or playing are soft aimbotters and wall hackers twitch allows it the game devs it self cant stop it... we are getting no new content updates and .... UPDATES that was suppose to fix * made it worse .....stock market has crashed the devs them selvs say there not in a hurry to do anything about the game.... so if your still playing [pc] side then your either new , oblivious, or botting 

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I feel there is alot less cheaters now.  most cheaters I've seen were right on release.