Can we talk about how low 5% damage increase on low profile characters is? Like half the guns in this game do below 20 damage per shot. The flatline, does 16 per shot; 5% of that is below 1 damage. Even though the developers may round the damage up, 1 extra damage is bollox.

@pastaclown wrote:@MassiveVernon sadly the history of Low Profile had absolutely nothing to do with how big or small a character was.Umm nope. I can quote a Respawn dev on this matter.'People always forget that low profile exists to counter the effect of a small hitbox. These Legends are literally harder to hit. It has nothing to do with ability balance.' source "I've definitely thought about giving Wraith extra low profile. She has the same hitbox as Lifeline and Watson but her animations make her smaller. We could also change her run anims but she will lose some personality in the process. Tough problem." source2 Also, the gaming merchant's comparison isn't 100 % accurate. So what the dev said is as accurate as it can be.

@KILLERWOLFM8N Do you play Wraith, Wattson or Lifeline much? They take insane damage. The only way you'll win against a Gibi is if you have a better gun, they miss a ton of shots, or you get the first shots off.Toss in that their entire hit box is either a body or head shot.At opposite ends of the spectrum is Gibi who's 203,000 pixels or so. Wraith meanwhile is 95,997 pixels.When it comes to Gibi I'd estimate his body shot is probably in the 100,000 pixel range. How ever a large portion of that is covered by his arm shield which gives him an additional 50 damage, now factor in the 15% damage reduction.That means in some senses the Wraith hit box is almost as big as the gibi body hit box. While taking 5% more damage and not having additional health benefits that Gibi has.It balances out..

@Daze623 What do u mean low?Low profile is insane if u hit your shots

@Elamami3440 if everything is so good, then why aren't you playing for the Gibraltar or caustic?

@pastaclown Fortified makes sense though , but I really don’t feel like the size difference between the medium and small sized characters is big enough to justify a bigger damage increase than 5%

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Daze623
5 years ago
@KILLERWOLFM8N they also take full damage when they get shot in the legs but yeah I think it's kinda low.
Elamami3440
5 years ago
@Daze623 What do u mean low?

Low profile is insane if u hit your shots
Elamami3440
5 years ago
@Daze623 you get full damage in the hand especially if u 1v1 someone who don't have low profile or he have FORTIFIED
Warz0ne_Legends
5 years ago
@Elamami3440 if everything is so good, then why aren't you playing for the Gibraltar or caustic?
pastaclown
5 years ago
"Low Profile" is a nerf in name only, while the recent change to LP legends taking body damage to legs, 5% is as you stay, quite literally nothing.
That's why "Fortified" works, and "Low Profile" doesn't.
Elamami3440
5 years ago
@Warz0ne_Legends Iam wraith main and iam playing caustic in ranked
Elamami3440
5 years ago
@pastaclownu mean u want them to increase it, u know that's will break the game huh?
MassiveVernon
5 years ago
@pastaclown Fortified makes sense though , but I really don’t feel like the size difference between the medium and small sized characters is big enough to justify a bigger damage increase than 5%
pastaclown
5 years ago
@Elamami3440 It's really not. It is quite literally mere milliseconds of decreased TTK from the most popular primaries, and a mere 1 bullet less fired for most weapons.
Don't believe me? Do the math yourself.
https://apexlegends.gamepedia.com/Weapons
Every weapon there tells you how they perform against Low Profile legends.
Compare that to Rock Paper Shotguns TTK calculations here: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/05/19/apex-legends-alternator-stats-dps-ttk-spray-pattern-alternator-tips/
Edit: Do I want them to increase it? Nope. The developers only put Low Profile onto legends due to their popularity, as a way to incentivize people to play other characters. They're trying to go through and nerf said legends accordingly so everyone has a chance to shine. Problem is, the only real legend that needs LP is Wraith, because no matter how much you nerf her abilities, the heart of the matter is that she's insanely good simply due to how small she is. If they were to increase the damage taken, they'd do so for everyone, meaning Wattson, Lifeline, Pathfinder, etc. would get a hard nerf despite not having the same kill/pick rate as Wraith.
pastaclown
5 years ago
@MassiveVernon sadly the history of Low Profile had absolutely nothing to do with how big or small a character was. It was tacked onto Legends as Season 2 started in order to add incentive to players playing other characters. It was meant to nerf the popularity of certain Legends at the time, and Wattson in particular was added later as the meta for ranked had changed into, "Sit in buildings and camp".
Octane doesn't have LP despite being similar in size to Lifeline, and Crypto doesn't have it despite being similar in size to Wattson.
https://dotesports.com/apex-legends/news/apex-legends-has-some-drastically-different-hitbox-sizes
https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/all-apex-legends-hitbox-sizes-and-how-revenant-compares-1326319
It's a meaningless 5%, especially since they've been going through and nerfing all the characters who've had Low Profile tacked onto them. They should've done one or the other, meaning they should've either doubled down and increased the damage taken while not nerfing anyones abilities, or taken LP off after the nerfs.