mouse ps4 cheat

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@ViralBane wrote:
Please tell me how it's an " indisputable " advantage. If both items are capped at the same limit, the in game cursor doesn't move quicker on one over the other, it becomes an issue of preference. If you're good with a controller there's nothing a mouse user can do to get an advantage over you other than who has the high ground, positioning.

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If you were an experienced mouse and keyboard user or esport viewer you would know. Even console games have sensitivity settings and a mouse can obviously allow you to take advantage of higher settings without losing the finer aim of a lower setting. I'm checking youtube right now and it's as clear as day to me. What is not to get?

if you were an experienced mouse and keyboard user and you used the emulators you would know instantly it's no where close to the speed and accuracy of native support. it would still be better than using a controller for most people used to using a mouse and keyboard but to say it's such a huge advantage over a controller to be unfair just isn't true. an emulator user would be at the same disadvantage a controller user would be going up against native support. they are bound to the same limitations. 

This makes me think about people who watch stuffs using Bittorrent or illegal streaming websites. People using them have all sort of arguments to justify themselves when in fact it's pure an simple theft...

try harder to associate it with stealing. 

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@full951 wrote:

try harder to associate it with stealing. 

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What do you mean? Sorry, English isn't my native language. I thought theft and stealing were the same thing.

you are changing the topic to stealing. 

mouse and keyboard is not stealing. it's not cheating either. there is no moral or ethical dispute. it's just a controller. an objectively better controller. that's it. it doesn't steal anything or cheat any one. 

Never to be supported on console unless they're thrown into PC lobbies. 

That's the end of the discussion. Absolutely the end of it. That simple 

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@decimation92 wrote:

Never to be supported on console unless they're thrown into PC lobbies. 

That's the end of the discussion. Absolutely the end of it. That simple 

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Thats not the conversation we're having. if it gets native support obviously there will be a cross play situation and players will have the choice to play with or without pc players.

what were talking about is emulated support. 

Regardless it shouldn't be outright supported. That being said, I know Respawn/EA won't go out of their way to ban xim4 if they feel they're profiting off those people, which they almost certainly are. 

Target transitioning is where the problem lies. It's simply too easy to focus fire on 1 enemy then quickly snap to another if a threat emerges. That alone can screw with the integrity of the console PVP experience, that's not including the enhanced accuracy while doing so which makes a huge difference in this game. So in a perfect world, I'd remove support of that * entirely. 

Under any circumstance any m&k use should be thrown in to play w/ PC lobbies. I would be completely OK with native support if they're paired up w/ PC lobbies & by result disincentivise people from using xim. Whether using native or emulated m&k you'd be at a disadvantage to people running high-end PC's, but regardless of the circumstances, it's not the Console Gamer who should get punished, the people using m&K on console are the ones who should have to accept less than ideal circumstances. There's a reason why people pay up to keep their PCs in top shape.

That all being said, I expect nothing to be done about either of these issues, any time soon 

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Regardless it shouldn't be outright supported. That being said, I know Respawn/EA won't go out of their way to ban xim4 if they feel they're profiting off those people, which they almost certainly are. 

you don't know it but this is the biggest false perception about emulated mouse and keyboard support.

you think they are profiting off the Xim? only Xim is profiting off them. there's absolutely no way any dev of any game is profiting from less than one half of one percent of the entire possible player base. that's right. the people at Xim keep usage stats. if every single person who owns a xim4 or Xim Apex played Apex Legends at the same time it would amount to less than one half of one percent of all Apex Legends players. you are wrong. 

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Target transitioning is where the problem lies. It's simply too easy to focus fire on 1 enemy then quickly snap to another if a threat emerges. That alone can screw with the integrity of the console PVP experience, that's not including the enhanced accuracy while doing so which makes a huge difference in this game. So in a perfect world, I'd remove support of that * entirely. 

this is not a problem. increase your in game sensitivity if you feel you can't move from one target to another fast enough. it's exactly the same for both control types. your personal inability to switch targets is not the fault or a problem with emulated support. enhanced accuracy is achieved by the player and of course the heavy aim assist(aim assist imo should not be in any game for any control device). the game does not play itself. the device affords better control by using the mouse over sticks and versatile button binding. accuracy and speed are supplied by the players

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@decimation92 wrote:

Under any circumstance any m&k use should be thrown in to play w/ PC lobbies. I would be completely OK with native support if they're paired up w/ PC lobbies & by result disincentivise people from using xim. Whether using native or emulated m&k you'd be at a disadvantage to people running high-end PC's, but regardless of the circumstances, it's not the Console Gamer who should get punished, the people using m&K on console are the ones who should have to accept less than ideal circumstances. There's a reason why people pay up to keep their PCs in top shape.

That all being said, I expect nothing to be done about either of these issues, any time soon 

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under most circumstances native mouse and keyboard support is separated from. controllers. though I would tell you that trend is gonna change in the near future. from the sound of it you are really gonna hate gaming next Gen. you are right a natively supported mouse and keyboard player on console would have a disadvantage playing against a high tier pc. but despite that you're not gonna hear the complaints like controller players try to make vs mnk. the console gamer isn't getting punished in any way. if you feel that strongly about it you can use one yourself or run away and not play with the less than one half of one percent of players at maximum potential using an adapter. 

the players using mouse and keyboard on console NEVER have and NEVER will be punished in any way. we have them to. thank for the accelerated push for mouse and keyboard support on consoles to begin with. next Gen is gonna be lit. games never before available on console because of the short comings of controllers are now coming to consoles. for that we thank emulated support users