@Eshshshss wrote:
@WreckingVisounds like an opinion of a player who is not willing to adjust.
All 60 players play on the same map, the same thing for everyone. You get fried by snipers or 3rd parties -> make conclusions, adjustments -> try again, do better -> repeat if needed.
Never understood players who complain about the map, especially when most of them (seen from the plays in actual ranked games) don't do/know even the basics of the game e.g. pushing 1 into 3 enemies or shooting while standing outside cover, etc.
It's like complaining about the theory of relativity or quantum physics while not being able to solve 1+1 or ask that the gameplay of FPS is the same as a racing game because why would you need extra skill set to play every game great?! 🙂
Of course we all adjust depending on the situation, that is the core principle every player should have in Apex. But saying that there is nothing wrong with KC and that players should just "adjust" then there is no need to update all three (four in the next season) maps ever. Let's bring back the OG Capitol in WE and people should just adjust to the whole lobby dying even before round 1 finishes.
In my opinion, KC is an outdated map and it's clear that Respawn is moving away from these cramped maps. That's why Olympus is open and Stormpoint will be like that as well. We also saw Respawn expand KC just because of the small map and wanted to ease the 3rd partying (Respawn's words not mine). Outside of nostalgia, I don't see KC as a better map than WE or Olympus.
On the other hand, KC SHOULD still remain in pubs but in ranked where you play KC for 1 and a half month, then no.
@Cheese9Mansorry but I don't get your argument(s) agains KC:
- is it map being too open? if so Olympus is even more open lol
- is the map too small? well people in especially WE solve it by dropping into Fragment East
- does KC lack of space to cover? would not agree, I as an Octain can rat each of 3 maps till top5 (up to Platinum lobbies) easily
- KC breaks the gameplay/joy of the game? well this is then up to players to decide as in my opinion dropping 10 squads in Fragment is even worse yet it happens every other map when it is on rotation even in ranked
- cramping is an issue? https://youtu.be/ZAKn3fAZ1kY WE seems to have the same problem I guess then
Also removing map from ranked in my opinion would remove a need to play it in pubs as well. For me Pubs is like a firing range - I go test things out in it to apply the results in ranked. No map in ranked, no need to play it at all unless I have like a nostalgia or play only pubs (in this case again all of the above possible arguments are irrelevant as pubs are pubs - there is no risk and reward there except badges which people will get anyway as long as they have a bit of skill).
@Eshshshss wrote:
Also removing map from ranked in my opinion would remove a need to play it in pubs as well. For me Pubs is like a firing range - I go test things out in it to apply the results in ranked.
You are severely out of touch with the average player.
@Eshshshss wrote:
- is it map being too open? if so Olympus is even more open lolThe map is too small and open at the same time. Too small that it's easier to 3rd party. @WreckingVi was pointing out that you can snipe accross different POIs. If you're in diving board above containment, you can snipe a few POIs there which is not possible in other maps since the POIs are divided by mountains/walls.
- is the map too small? well people in especially WE solve it by dropping into Fragment EastAs I've said Respawn "tried" to do something about capitol hence its destruction. WE is great aside from Frag.
- does KC lack of space to cover? would not agree, I as an Octain can rat each of 3 maps till top5 (up to Platinum lobbies) easilyI didn't say that KC doesn't have cover.
- KC breaks the gameplay/joy of the game? well this is then up to players to decide as in my opinion dropping 10 squads in Fragment is even worse yet it happens every other map when it is on rotation even in rankedI thought we were talking about ranked? I only see 5 squads in Frag max in plat and diamond lobbies
- cramping is an issue? https://youtu.be/ZAKn3fAZ1kY WE seems to have the same problem I guess thenNot gonna watch a 22min video.
Also removing map from ranked in my opinion would remove a need to play it in pubs as well. For me Pubs is like a firing range - I go test things out in it to apply the results in ranked. No map in ranked, no need to play it at all unless I have like a nostalgia or play only pubs (in this case again all of the above possible arguments are irrelevant as pubs are pubs - there is no risk and reward there except badges which people will get anyway as long as they have a bit of skill).Yeah let KC stay in pubs like S7 and S9. I think you didn't get the whole point. Oh well. Also, Average Player does not equate to a casual player. One thing is for sure, if Respawn decides to drop a map since they'll probably push the new map down our throats, KC will be the first one to go. Have a great day.
I'm at the opposite end of the scale here I think lol, I'm literally only playing ranked so I can consistently play kc. It probably won't be in rotation for ranked next season so I doubt I'll play ranked at all.
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