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Cheese9Man's avatar
3 years ago

Noobs Noobs Noobs

In this game, I was in a duo with my friend. We don't mind having noobs as our third since we're just doing our daily challenges (hence the Mirage and Fuse) and hop on back to Overwatch. Our third doesn't know how to play at all. Doesn't know how to swap armors and even tried reviving me under a Bangalore ult. 

The problem is if I were a new player like this player, I would be very frustrated facing against 4 year veterans. Why would they place new players in lobbies like this? I myself is used to getting rolled by better players but I can't imagine a noob player trying to learn a game being placed straight into our pre-made lobbies. No wonder new players are swayed away from the game. 

Poor random

The funny part was this is the champion. We managed to get to 7th place baby sitting the Octane as much as possible even giving him our own armor. Help our noobs for the longevity of this game. I'm throwing hands if anyone says the MM is fine in this game. LOL.

Do you think their Wraith is also a noob or a smurf account? LMAO.

20 Replies

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @reconzero I think you might have misread my post a bit. My KDR when solo queuing is MUCH higher than when I play with either one or two friends queued together. It's because I am put in lobbies that better reflect my skill level. I don't think very much about how my randoms care to play, except that since I am not high skilled, I do have to wait until slower playing team mates catch up before pushing a team. Sometimes I have to rotate differently than I would prefer.  And that's honestly about all the allowance I make for them, besides trying to to help them out as I can, whether that be in a fight or their looting needs, because I do consider myself a team player.  If they are making terrible decisions, such as fighting at a big disadvantage or without regard for zone, or if they are bad team mates, then I am on my own.

    I find that most randoms in my pubs, regardless of their skill level, are generally looking to play about the same way - find enemies, try to create an advantage, and push them. Rotate to zone and repeat. I'm not terribly concerned about winning games TBH, just looking to take intelligent fights and keep improving in the areas where my skills are lacking.

    From reading your posts, I think that we play quite differently from each other. While i am not generally a hot drop Harry, I actively look for, and take, fights throughout a match.  For me, a 3-4 kill game, coming in 3rd or whatever, is a complete success, and any game where I come out with a 1+ kdr is good enough for me. I understand and respect your concept of playing more for the win, but it doesn't concern me that much. That said, I have only played one solo queue match this season, just this last week, and it was in fact a win as kill leader, with all of us contributing about equally.  Batting 1000 so far, lol!

    Good luck out there, friend!

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @pandareno1999

    I see what you mean. No, definitely not the same player, although similar in some respects. I am curious though: "I understand and respect your concept of playing more for the win, but it doesn't concern me that much." Does this mean that in a multi-team game the win is too hard to get so you don't think about it? Too unlikely to come so you don't think about it? Too unlikely to come with random teammates and bad sbmm? Or just too many years of arena shooters where kills were a higher priority because they literally = winning? What's the thought process on not playing for the big goal?
  • I see this in ranked arena honestly. Sometimes I am paired with inexperienced players. I had many 3v2 arena games where the enemy team was 1 man down from the start and we won 3-0. From the first round it was clear who was going to win. My question is... why didn't they quit after the second round? We won, they lost RP... these players are so inexperienced that they don't even know they can quit without penalties if they're missing a teammate! Why do they even play ranked of all things is beyond me. 

    The fact that I haven't even touched the gunplay/movement aspect yet says a lot.

  • EdwardDLuffy's avatar
    EdwardDLuffy
    3 years ago

    I had a 'noob' the other day who wouldn't change to blue armour. When I asked why he said he didn't like evo armour and was waiting until he found a normal one.

  • Kyldenar's avatar
    Kyldenar
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @EdwardDLuffy Did he not know that it's ALL Evo Armor?

    Like, I'd also rather get rid of Evo Armor for stuff that just has inherent damage reduction and doesn't ablate, but we don't have that option here...
  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @reconzero I'm not ignoring your message. But it proved to give me food enough for thought that I don't yet have a clear, thoughtful answer to give you. In simple terms, I'm playing for self improvement so that I may become a better player, rather than trying to rack up wins.  I like the buzz of winning games as much as the next guy, but getting better is more important to me.  And avoiding fights to try to place higher will not help me achieve that goal.

  • Cheese9Man's avatar
    Cheese9Man
    3 years ago
    @pandareno1999 My friends and I used to be liked this back around seasons 3-5. We would play the game like PUBG and never initiate fights if it’s the last 5 squads remaining. Then if it’s the last 3 squads, we would make sure we’re the third party so that we get wins. Eventually winning got stale and in the long run improving during fights actually gave us more wins.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @pandareno1999

    I would have called that answer both clear and thoughtful. I can definitely see where you're trying to get and I'd say you're following the right map to get there. Personal experience tells me that you may find you don't really like the weather at your destination, but your experience may well be different than mine was when I was a... grindier player. Grindier? Is that the word I was looking for? Well, I'm sure you know what I mean.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago
    @Cheese9Man I am similar. I'd rather fight and die than do nothing and win. But if it comes down to my team and 2 others I'm working to push the teams together, force their fight and win the game. If the teams are quite split I'll try to wipe one team quick. I'm not playing a full game just to chuck it out the window at the end.
  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    @Cheese9Man Kind of a middle ground for me - when I make it to the late game, I (and my friends) start to play much more strategically.  After all, end game brings a whole bunch of other skills to bear, which I also want to improve upon.  My high skill friend with whom I play the most excels at this - I have spectated him winning many a game solo when I have been boxed and unable to be respawned, and he has IGL'd us into plenty of wins when were had lost our random third, as well.

    I guess, essentially ditto what @hayhor just said.