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Vdstrk's avatar
Vdstrk
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Pubs MM is Unchanged since seasons 8/9

Despite all the tweaking announced I do not belive Pubs have been touched at all. As it was back in season 8/9 is still today.

You either are in a team with 2 very low level players, potentially around level 10, and in a lobby with diamonds and masters (Fake S17 master also), and have a miserable time.

Or you end up in a masters/pred/master smurf/pred smurf team and have a miserable time.

This is precisely what it was back then, 2 years or so ago.

I do not engage in Ranked, because it is the most BORING mode conceivable for a BR game. The very few times I watched ALGS matches I just went straight for a nap. But of course, this is just my opinion, as the above. 

That said I see no improvements, cheaters be cheating for months before getting banned and be back in a blink. Smurfs be smurfing non stop, because their fun should trample the fun of everyone else, and they aren't even on the ban radar. No sound steps still pops up several times, far more times than acceptable.

People can still be horrendously toxic through voice chat, because who cares, right, certainly not EA since it is not monitored.

I think I struggle finding reasons to play apex, as the negatives are way more than the positives.

EDIT: The miserable experience is exacerbated by cheaters, smurfs, and unfixed bugs, all of which are perfectly within developers/publisher reach to fix.

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10 Replies

  • WTF_Huitzo's avatar
    WTF_Huitzo
    2 years ago

    yeah i didn't see a diff in pubs either 
    in ranked tho ... s17-18 are so bad with mmr it's pathetic.

  • Axs5626Sxa5001's avatar
    Axs5626Sxa5001
    2 years ago

    I have no interest in specifically changing your mind. 

    You are entitled to believe whatever you want.

    That being said, have you tested matchmaking across various account over thousands of games? Have you charted these findings?

    I have.

    Again, your opinion is not to be devalued. But you are wrong, lol.

    I positively guarantee you that matchmaking has been changed and is (overall) far tighter than it was.

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @VdstrkI thought for a second a few weeks back that it was better, but I'm back to the same BS now. Multiple games in a row with trash teammates and murder bot 3 stack enemies.  Nothing seems to have changed and of course no communication on any of these issues from Respawn.

    Tap strafing all over the map has gotten completely out of hand, too.  Absolutely ridiculous.

  • Twizted3konYT's avatar
    Twizted3konYT
    Seasoned Adventurer
    2 years ago
    @HappyHourSumwur It's not tap strafing that's a problem, a tap strafe is fine. It's the controller configs that let you neo-strafe at the push of a button while still being able to aim and shoot. That's straight up cheating, no skill involved.
  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Axs5626Sxa5001I see. No I haven't tested with multiple accounts. I only have one, and besides being short on time, I kinda not enjoy Apex as I did before for a variety of reasons with the main being Cheaters. Although I care about the game and wish the best for it.
    That said, I would appreciate it if you could elaborate on your findings as I would love to learn one thing or two, and it could very much help others as well!
    I believe when you say MM is much tighter, but I still get paired with team mates that seem clueless about the game. I struggle reconcile this with a "better" matchmaking. I would be very happy if you could show me otherwise -genuinely speaking.
    I very much appreciate the fact that you pointed out that regardless of me reaching a wrong conclusion you still acknowledge that we are all entitle to our opinions!

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @Vdstrk As mostly a pub player with over 7k hours i can def see the differences when they do toy with things.

    SBMM as example was retired and a new system was brought in. Last season i was constantly paired as a solo player against 3 stack master/pred teams. Which is normal for me all seasons.

    But, this season I can see a huge difference im not being faced against them as often. For me i pay attention to stuff like that so i have solid feedback that is more accurate. (Your feedback is yours i do not discredit it) but sadly it is the experience you are having right now.

    For me though this season match making has been kind to me.
  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @Twizted3k_tvThat must be what I'm seeing then. Players flying around the map bouncing off everything at speeds I can only achieve sliding downhill and hitting all their shots on me even while I'm strafing. Total garbage.

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Vdstrk

    This season started off for me with some very relaxed lobbies. And it stayed that way long enough to make me think it was the new normal. Way better than previous seasons, making me think this must be the new, more granular algorithm.

    Then, about three days ago, the other shoe dropped. Now every match is a sweat-soaked meat grinder. I had a guy on my team just today: 150,000 kills. I used to run into these hyper-aggressive, perfectly accurate players once in a blue moon. Now they're half the lobby, every lobby.

    I just did one of Respawn's feedback survey's and I told them the worst thing about the game (they asked!) was matchmaking that felt subjectively as if enemies were either bots or predators. I wouldn't have said that a week ago, but it got true in a big hurry, like somebody threw a switch.

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