Q&A Matchmaking - Anti-Cheat
Hello everyone! In the past few days I have been reading the Respawn Q&A that answers various questions about Anti-Cheat and Matchmaking and I am sincerely amazed by some of the team's answers regar...
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I readily admit that brief, single paragraph answers don't always explain points to satisfaction, but I read every question and, at least to me, every response made perfect sense.
I think one of the things they're saying here is that for a good portion of any given season a player's visible rank may be significantly lower than their skill, and below the rank they will eventually achieve over time. They just haven't finished climbing the ladder yet. Which is why they absolutely cannot match based strictly on visible rank. I don't know where it is they start last season's predators, but I've certainly played matches where it seemed like they let those preds reset to rookie. No legit rookie player should be matched against high-tier players just because those high-tier players haven't maxed out their grind yet. Does that make sense?
Ranked IS a time grind, not a skill grind. Period. They can claim all day long that they're looking into that, but they won't change it because their primary objective is to keep you playing, not to give you an accurate rank in a single afternoon.
The part about matching players of seemingly dissimilar skill onto the same squad... it's true. They do this and they always have. And their answer was 100% correct. Skill in this game can be defined in many different ways, or as an amalgam of many different skills or abilities or experience. Play style deltas are HUGE in this game. If you're the player that watches a couple of aggressive and cheating streamers and genuinely believes that that's how you should play the game, how you HAVE to play the game, then you will have this experience a lot: you think your squadmates are idiots because they don't have your back, won't drop into your chosen dumpster fire, won't rotate with you, whatever the symptom. Maybe they're new to the game. Or maybe they have a radically different philosophy on how to play the game, where to go, when to push, when NOT to push, etc. It doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. It means they have no faith in whatever it is that YOU are doing. And there is no way for the matchmaker to know these things about players. Hence solo-queue squads of players who are completely disconnected from each other and who consequently give the impression of not understanding the game. Often times they understand it all too well - they're just not playing the same game. That's how much latitude there is in your approach to Battle Royale.
Don't know if any of these perspectives make any sense, but I agree with 100% that all of this is worthy of discussion.
"And their answer was 100% correct."
best joke ever, are you a respawn shill or just funny ?
A Fuse that cant deal more than 35 dmg in 15 minutes of high platin ranked play is just bad and has not the skill he should have at that rank.
Playstyle has nothing to do with that ...
And that happens quite often to me, i posted a lot of screenshots that paint a clear picture.
Always one guy in my team that cant keep up, the statement teams are assembled by same skill is simply false.
After thousands of Matches i can def say who has a higher/lower/same skill than me, you simply can feel it, even when the playstyles dont align and you die bcs of such reasons (hotdrops, chokepoint fights, greedy playstyle ect.).
When teammates dont know how to use their legend, its def smb with a lower skill.
Only bcs your Matchmaker in Pubs now works to your satisfaction, doesnt mean it works for everyone especially in a competitive ranked game.I'm not sure anyone said teams are assembled "by the same skill." The target is that everyone be in the same ballpark. And no, even that standard is often not quite met. I've said forever and a day that solo queue squads are often one experienced player, one somewhat experienced player, and one inexperienced player. But the developer was still not wrong to point out that play style differences matter. Match goals matter. And honestly, I don't believe that it's uncommon at all to get a random squad where even the weakest player may be respectable, but where that player just isn't in the mood for his squadmates' aggression or Respawn's shady matchmaking. And the net result can be the appearance of a player who, as you said, "can't keep up." To be even more honest, I can tell you from my own experience that I'm ALWAYS the most experienced player on my squad, and I can also tell you that I get tired of Respawn's "strong, less strong, weak" squad make up. And that often causes ME to be the player who is holding back, and who gives the impression of being weak. I'm not weak. I'm just unwilling.
Where I'm headed with all of this is that there can be a lot going on with players that can give the impression that we all get where teams are grossly mis-matched, but that those players are often not at all what they seem. I know I'm not. Much to the consternation of my teammates.
Where you are 100% right is that it doesn't really matter why a team is mismatched. It just sucks. But there is only so much the matchmaker can do. Is it doing everything that it can do? No, I don't think it is. But I'm starting to think, especially with the changes this season, that it's doing far more than it ever did in the past.
Nevertheless, I will take this opportunity to say what I've been saying for six years: This game needs to scrap the "fast match at any cost" primary goal that it has always had. It also needs to move "skill" farther down the list of match criteria. The primary matching parameter absolutely should be play style as self-reported by players when queried by the matchmaker. They need to be asking us a lot of questions about how we play, what our match goals are, and what it is we expect out of teammates. And it needs to allow us to update that data at the beginning of every session if we so choose. Only speaking for myself here, but I would gladly have two completely inexperienced teammates IF I had some idea that they were in the match for the same reasons that I am and shared the same outlook as me as to how to achieve goals.
By wording it " Squad matchmaking looks at closest skill to fill out your squad. " Respawn is again using typical Politician speak which everybody will understand as "near same skill" and not as "miles apart". And the excuse "playstyle" might be true for some matches (i know when playstyle was the issue) , but the majority of matches is just getting teammates not the same "shoesize" ... and that def feels like being set up to fail on purpose !
And regarding to ". And that often causes ME to be the player who is holding back, and who gives the impression of being weak. I'm not weak. I'm just unwilling."
You wouldnt do only 35 dmg with Fuse in 15 minutes of platinum ranked play, bcs you wouldnt be the "unwilling one" in my team, since i normally dont opt for stupid unwinnable fights at chokepoints, wont get greedy for loot/kills when the 3 ring is seconds away, ect.
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