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Mad_Dog8762's avatar
Mad_Dog8762
6 years ago

R99 is still kinda OP, you cant change my mind

How can we tell? Because its easily the most desired weapon in the game

fastest fire rate, and upgraded, it can melt someone in purple shields before they can even react

Okay, that's fine

BUT, for that kinda power, it needs to SUCK at anything outside its intended range

Seriously, 

The amount of times ive been LASERED at what SHOULD be assault rifle range, is rediculous

This weapon needs its range reduced, and the best way is recoil

YES< full auto, the thing should be near uncontrollable, intended for point blank engagements, and, short controlled bursts for ANYTHING farther than room distance

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  • iBlockHead's avatar
    iBlockHead
    6 years ago
    @Mad_Dog8762 I've always wondered this myself.

    What range is considered mid-range? Looking at firing range from one end of the gun racks (Legendary weapons) to the other end (snipers I believe), at what range should the R-99 begin to have insane recoil like the L-Star?

    Using the L-Stars recoil because I can't seem to control it enough to hit people anything outside a shotguns range.
  • Extremejinks's avatar
    Extremejinks
    6 years ago
    @Mad_Dog8762 In the past, people have suggested removing the barrel-mod slot on the R-99 and either keeping the base recoil or slightly improving it. IMO the R-99 becomes severely OP at range when you slap a decent barrel mod on it so this would help. Perhaps increasing the damage fall off would also help keep it a close range weapon.

    Side note: I always love seeing "pro" players run nothing but the PK/R-99 loadout like they don't know how to use anything else.
  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago
    @iBlockHead i think he should have similar range as the PK without choke. Anything beyond that you should get melted by a G7, R-301, flatline.
  • 1ronKeys's avatar
    1ronKeys
    6 years ago
    @Mad_Dog8762 if a gun is only usable ar "point blank" range then it is a really useless weapon.

    Smg should be good from point blank up to the start point of midrange.

    SMGs should be effective in a similar range + more than shotguns.

    The fact you saying you think it should only be effective at point blank shows you're one of these people trying to use ARs ar 5meter distance calling it "mid range".

    I don't use R99s at midrange because I'll get splatted by someone using a midrange weapon.
  • Cabowse's avatar
    Cabowse
    6 years ago

    I feel okay with the R-99, It's not the easiest weapon to master but it's great in the right hands. I think if you nerfed the damage anymore it would become solely unviable at doing its main job, which is burst DPS. However a horizontal recoil increase could be the ticket to reducing this weapon's supremacy at mid-range.

    Let's look at it's advantages.

    • High burst DPS
    • Relatively accurate.
    • Decent reload speed.

    And now it's disadvantages.

    • Chews through ammo - Makes the weapon harder to use at the beginning of a game.
    • Low average overall damage per clip.
    • Not a great secondary for a Sniper - due to it's purpose of burst DPS over endurance damage.

    I think this weapon limits most people to close quarters, it's not quite as bad as the prowler in that regard, but the Prowler makes up for it in endurance damage due to it's large clip and decent bullet damage.

    This weapon is made for skirmishers and ambushes, it's about doing your damage as quickly as possible and moving into cover. I wonder if the devs will keep nerfing it, but I hope for the sake of the weapon that they don't move it out of being relevant altogether.

  • Jinnobi's avatar
    Jinnobi
    6 years ago

    The Prowler performs better at medium range than the R99. 

    In fact, the Prowler with full upgrades is simply a better gun than the R99. 

    However, the Prowler is, by default, more uncommon than the R99 -- and that's before considering the rarity of the Selectfire Receiver + Heavy Extended Mag.  

    What makes the R99 silly is that you can reliably find one every game, and popping a Mag + Barrel on the gun makes it viable through the late game. 

    And while you're better off with a fully upgraded Prowler, the effort and rarity required to obtain the upgraded Prowler makes it an unreliable find -- whereas the R99 is basically a handout. 

    I agree with removing the barrel mod from the R99. It would leave the R99 largely the same at short range, while curtailing medium and long range potential. 

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