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maximas1986
3 years ago

Re: Apex rank system is totaly not fair ;(

@rudness-is-cheap actually it's utterly unfair as preds 90% of times come in stacks.
rarely to see randoms in pred lobbies.
but .....I do now understand the point of it.
it's as simple as that, if you can not fight them then you don't join them.
I believe the solution is to separate solo queuers from 3 stacking, which is an impossible thing to do.
so nothing can be done, either you rise up to their level or just sit in the rank that you earned.
the best solution is to find good consistent teammates and level up your gameplay and get that sweet rank that you deserve 🙂
Ps: am not a pred or a very good player, not even close

15 Replies

  • Daze623's avatar
    Daze623
    3 years ago
    @maximas1986 it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.
  • maximas1986's avatar
    maximas1986
    3 years ago
    @Daze623 you are right but it's impossible to do for pred rank because they set only 750 of them so matchmaking will take ages to start a match.
    they made this rank so prestigious that only a very very few can get to it (most of them are cheaters) 🙂.
    so that's the price we are the ones who are paying unfortunately
  • Cheese9Man's avatar
    Cheese9Man
    3 years ago
    @Daze623 wrote:
    @maximas1986it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.

    Not disagreeing with you but Respawn has been stern with their stand that short queue times will always be their priority. As for other games, 60 player lobbies is harder to fill compared to your usual 5v5 multiplayer games.

  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
    3 years ago

    this can all be resolved by increasing the amount of masters or even preds.  It's not that complicated.  If there were say 5K masters and 1K preds, instead of 500 and 750 respectively, there wouldn't be an issue of having to pull diamond players into their lobbies.  If there is, then maybe pull diamond 1 or 2 only.  If you're masters, diamond 1 or 2, you shouldn't complain about playing against preds.  If you're at that place in the game, obviously you're a good player and shouldn't shy away from the challenge.  Also, if they kill a pred, they would be awarded more points.  But, I think 5K masters and 1K preds should be plenty to have decent que times.  

  • HappyHourSumwur's avatar
    HappyHourSumwur
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @swift07 The data they showed at the beginning of this season showed far less upper ranked players than before & they made only minor changes to the system. I think the distribution across ranks is what they want but feels very thin at the top to me.
  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
    3 years ago

    @HappyHourSumwuryes, that is the issue. Why don't they distribute as a percentage of the playerbase who falls into what rank. If there are 500K people playing ranked, make preds top .05% and masters 10% or whatever. Currently, people are not able to reach masters because they don't have enough points, but if it was percentage, it would fill up.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago
    @swift07 I think the OP would still complain tho. He would be the masters player who dies to better masters players and preds.

    I do agree tho the MM was a lot better before season 13 when it was easier to climb.
  • CCbathwater's avatar
    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    Wdym? It's perfectly fair. 😂😂

    (From ImperialHal's twitter)

  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
    3 years ago
    @hayhor The OP said he got demoted from diamond to plat. So there's a good chance they won't be masters if it was 10%. They could do less than 10% as well and I think there will be enough people to fill pred/masters lobbies.
  • CCbathwater's avatar
    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @swift07 He won. Ranked no worky if you get 0rp from a win. 0 kills or 57 kills, doesn't matter. A win should never be 0rp.
  • Icantaimbrooo's avatar
    Icantaimbrooo
    3 years ago

    winning and getting 0rp is bs tbh, rank system is screwed up because they made it to accommodate the minority of players, not the majority which is very backwards and only going to make the game go downhill 

  • swift07's avatar
    swift07
    3 years ago
    @CCbathwater yeah, I get it. I'm just saying the entry cost for preds is pretty high and I get why he didn't get any RP, but I think Respawn should adjust the point system.
  • Asmodeus566's avatar
    Asmodeus566
    Hero+
    3 years ago

    et all I am going to have to agree with @CCbathwater as a minimum if you win a match you should at least come out even (no RP loss).

    I actually think it really should work this way. If you win a match you get your RP entry cost back and after that you get your RP for the win and also your KP for kills and assists converted to RP.

    Winning should always have a positive reward and not have any type of RP loss at any rank. 

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