@Koochi-Q wrote:
@Hurkypandora128Not even gonna read your post cause it’s likely just explanation, but no, you can’t. Every online experience game on Xbox requires gold as opposed to Playstation where free mp games don’t require Playstation plus (or whatever their service is called)
Can confirm Apex and Fortnite and stuff are free on PS4.
I think that whole "console internet" is a bloody scam, and should be against the law. You're literally being charged to use internet you already paid for.
@Wingmannedbro I have to agree, its very odd and I can't quite grasp what service I'm paying microsoft for?! As I already paid for the xbox?!
@OldTreeCreeper wrote:@Wingmannedbro I have to agree, its very odd and I can't quite grasp what service I'm paying for?!
PSN or Xbox live access. A completely arbitrary toll they force people to pay just because they can.
@OldTreeCreeper the service to be able to use their platform to play exclusive games 😃 I joke
I miss the days PS was free to play all around ☹️ than they jumped on the xbox wagon and began charging us for online use 😢
@iBlockHead I think.the term "notional" service applies here🤓
@Koochi-Q I see it more as a sales platform where they take a % of the sales as well.
@Huntinwabits wrote:
@WingmannedbroBy two different companies? lol I could understand if it was all the same company.
How hard is it for 2 tech giants to have 2 representatives talk and make an arrangement.
You never considered it odd both platforms have the exact same way of ripping off customers?
The even have those couple of games on rotation every month as a front so the cost seems justified when it's really just charging people extra for the internet they already paid for.
So... they offer a service... and its just supposed to be free? Thats not how anything in the world works... it pays for servers, moderators to keep xbox clean etc etc... also helps keep out the trash, because as a lot of you complain on a F2P game, people cheat, act rude get banned start another account. Less likely to act like that if your paying for something eh?
Its 5 bucks a month move along find something else trivial to gripe about 🙄
@Jem450R I think you are missing the point.
Buy a pc play for free.
Buy an xbox pay pay pay (for what extra service?)
and buy controllers that don't last too long either!
Its not a gripe its a statement of fact.
Parity is all that is sought here.
@OldTreeCreeper wrote:@Jem450R I think you are missing the point.
Buy a pc play for free.
Buy an xbox pay pay pay (for what extra service?)
and buy controllers that don't last too long either!
Its not a gripe its a statement of fact.
Parity is all that is sought here.
Part of the fee i suppose is the fact they've developed an online world for console thats free of hacks... and is generally a pretty pleasant environment... not something you can say about a pc...
@Jem450R thats a broad brush of a statement, could you explain further exactly what you mean free of hacks? I have Norton on my old pc and it's free of hacks.
Xbox isos has been hacked in the past with users details taken, also individual accounts can be hacked if users are not careful. You can browse the internet on the xbox so imo it is vulnerable to attack there too and sadly i cannot put Norton onto it to protect it! (not that i use it for browsing)
As i said before, online pc is full of griefers and hackers... xbox not so much...
@Koochi-Q sure it can be... but its not much of a problem on xbox... i never really see aimbotters or feel im being cheated. Live also uses a rep system to pair good people with good people and vice versa...
And the best chocolate chip cookies are the ones without the chips! My sis makes me a batch when she does cookies without the chips and i LOVE them!
@Jem450R wrote:As i said before, online pc is full of griefers and hackers... xbox not so much...
@Koochi-Q sure it can be... but its not much of a problem on xbox... i never really see aimbotters or feel im being cheated. Live also uses a rep system to pair good people with good people and vice versa...
@Jem450R so safe to say your statements are opinion/feeling based rather than evidence based?
Do you work for microsoft? 😃 just asking...
Yeah its evidence based in my 12+ years of xbox live and being a live ambassador... so... yeah pretty good evidence! And as said before its 5 bucks a month(cheaper when find good deals), and the people complaining spend 20 bucks on a virtual wardrobe item...
@@@Jem450R wrote:So... they offer a service... and its just supposed to be free? Thats not how anything in the world works... it pays for servers, moderators to keep xbox clean etc etc... also helps keep out the trash, because as a lot of you complain on a F2P game, people cheat, act rude get banned start another account. Less likely to act like that if your paying for something eh?
Its 5 bucks a month move along find something else trivial to gripe about 🙄
Part of the fee i suppose is the fact they've developed an online world for console thats free of hacks... and is generally a pretty pleasant environment... not something you can say about a pc...
As i said before, online pc is full of griefers and hackers... xbox not so much...
@Koochi-Q sure it can be... but its not much of a problem on xbox... i never really see aimbotters or feel im being cheated. Live also uses a rep system to pair good people with good people and vice versa
Yeah its evidence based in my 12+ years of xbox live and being a live ambassador... so... yeah pretty good evidence! And as said before its 5 bucks a month(cheaper when find good deals), and the people complaining spend 20 bucks on a virtual wardrobe item...
Well I think your use of language speaks for itself, a quick synopses:
Move along if you dont agree with me!
Xbox is free of hacks and a pleasant environment, pc is not!
You ignore the fact that xbox iso's have been hacked!!
You generalise as I don't spend $20 on virtual wardrobe.
And Im not sure you could see what I wrote as a complaint.
I could go on.
You are doing a fine job as a salesman (oops sorry, a live ambassador) pushing the company line.
The fact you believe the online environments are anywhere near similar to each other proves you just want to argue. So im done with that, have a good day and keep believing pc and xbox live are the same...
@Jem450R The fact you believe the online environments are so different to each other proves you just want to argue. So im done with that, have a good day and keep believing pc and xbox live aren't the same, im sure you'll get a big clap handies at the next online symposium now that you've "moved along"!
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