Re: Console Aim Assist Should Be The Same As PC, When Joining PC Servers.

@B0n3SawMcSizzla Thanks for the info, I don’t know if that’s true, but even if it is, that’s yet another advantage for pc as they can have mice with trackerballs or finetune stuff to take advantage.

But let’s say that it’s true, console players still as cheeseman stated need to release grip of thumbstick for certain actions to be made while pc doesn’t if they have their hotkeys and inputs set up properly.

Having more neurons dedicated to one area makes it easier to have more precise movement, but it can also hamper the same thing. It’s just like how as babies or infants we have roughly half the amount more neurons than we do as adults cause they keep withering away allowing for better neural connection. That said, if you have more precise movement but the medium is still limited, it still won’t matter in the end xD

@B0n3SawMcSizzla Exactly what I see. The top level players like to talk about switching but do it for a bit then go back. The latest I heard was hal was talking about doing hybrid. Late game he would switch to a controller for that final circle.

@B0n3SawMcSizzla Yeah PS4 controllers work on PC. I've seen Zeus use his.

If there is to have equivalent aim assist it means there must have NO aim assist. And suppress the one for controller PC cheaters.
Additional benefit is that if they deleted the in game facility for it, most cheats like cronus/strike packs could not be able to exploit these.
Only the most sophisticated image analysis aimbots would still be available.

@powerlung That's extremely stupid. In real life, we have heavy vehicule weapons controlled with JOYSTICKS. A pistol requires you lift it and direct it to your target. But there is science to back me up about the brain thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortical_homunculus; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1579225/
Indeed joysticks are better to aim. In every other genre, people pull awesome tricks with controllers. The only thing preventing this in FPS was that historically they were more PC games since at this era, consoles were not good enough, but the players back then were just wishing for having controllers.

@KoochiQ: the difference with babies is that neural paths are not well established. But the more neurons you have for a motor area, the more neurons you can have to differencially control different motor units, hence the enhanced precision.

@B0n3SawMcSizzla as for trackball, these things never had a good sensitivity, so you could be as precise you wanted it was the same.
Same goes with trackpad. But on the other hand, ask to graphic artists why they will use graphical pads against M/K?
Because the adequate sensitivity (which is not always much more than a good mouse), and the fact they can use the full extent of their hand precision.

Also, about aim assist advantage that allow to focus on other areas:
Without it, all those controller player might not shine as much
(else, how do you explain that 80% preds are controler users, while there are not such imbalance regarding mnk /PC users?).

As said before (and it is science based, brain biology 101) because your thumb is indeed more precise than your shoulder, elbow, arm and hand.
On brain homonculus Thumb occupies more surface than even index finger and as much as the hand (without the fingers. They both occupy more surface than arms.

Science wise, it means you have much more neurons and synapses dedicated to the sole thumb because it is so damn important.


Also, there are many people on controler who pull ultra precise and mad tricks just because of that, and that without even talking about sticks.

Why would FPS be different?


So mouse are more precise?

I don't play FPS on controler because of the aim assist (I don't want that) , of the hurdle of having a controller to move around with me (in addition to these being fragile and costly things) and because somehow, it came to feel wrong when I became a PC player.

Also, I will give it to you, usually you lack other buttons.

And while I feel that controllers should be compensated for the lack of buttons which prevent them to make some combo moves and so on,

it should not be done by aim assist but by better interfaces/ergonomy.

Aim assist negates all the work you make for moving against an assisted opponent, by tracking you automatically.

Aim assist makes a surprised opponent able to counter the effect of stress and not being able to locate an opponent who get around you by just being able to switch on him like you had no stress and like you had detected him yourself with your own eyes and where moving accordingly

Aim assist negates the fact that you have limited mags by allowing to reload and reset on your opponent right away, while with no assist you shall reset on him by yourself, so the time to kill is better, with in addition the fact that with aim assist, once locked, you won't lose bullets unless you abuse your recoil (which is partly compensated without you having to think and try) for it), or unless there is an obstacle.

Aim assist allows you to be more mobile (for example, spinning around from your enemy to put some distance then again fronting to him and reseting your aim on him much more quickly by allowing to aim better and lose less bullets on hip fire, so it allows for better survival (in addition to the fact that you kill your enemies faster so less damages onto you)

Aim assist allows you to use higher sensitivity on ADS because it will catch the enemy if you just pass by him, so you don't have to be precise, just abuse the allowed quickness (that's what they say by "you have to learn to use aim assist for it to be better)

Aim assist has no learning curve, so it allows you to focus on your movement in fights to dodge more efficiently

Aim assist allows to manage more enemies at a time, because it is not your brain and eyes who have to do the work (that's why they fill fighters pilot helmets with threat highlight software...), and again, to focus on your tactics and not just "oh *, another guy incoming, damn I was careless losing my focus I let this other one escape...". So it allows you avoiding uncomfortable difficult situations.

I still don't have an extensive knowledge myself of all possible moves and legends, but I guess there are also legend specific things