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pandareno1999
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3 years ago

Re: How come streamers are allowed to make smurfs

Despite what's been said by Respawn over the last year, I have yet to ever hear of a player being banned specifically for smurfing.  Players have been banned for making another account to play on after their main account is banned (e.g. Taxi2G).  An admittedly cursory google search produced no direct evidence of smurfing bans.  By contrast, iiTzTimmy got banned pretty quickly for smurfing for content in Valorant.  I believe that Hideouts has stated that they do not consider the making of a new account in order to create "unranked to Masters/Pred" content to fit their definition of smurfing (I think some sort of caveat was given of "too frequently," or similar.)  Rather, as I read it, they only consider smurfing to mean deliberately throwing games in order to drop an account's MMR/rank in order to play in easy lobbies.

Please do correct me on this if I am in error.

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  • OldTreeCreeper's avatar
    OldTreeCreeper
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    3 years ago

    @pandareno1999

    This is the current position on smurfing afaik from apex hideouts.

    "So does this mean I can get banned for doing the “Solo to masters in all legend”?

    " No. This is intended for players that abuse the system and create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies. Having one smurf to do a grind like that will not get you banned"

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rspn_hideouts/status/1390020385706364929

    The question put to Conor was about a ranked challenge. He replied

    "create new accounts consistently to farm lower level lobbies."

    To me, it seems to be very specifically about banning farming pub or farming ranked smurfs, who are specifically and persistently wipeing out lower level lobbies for whatever reason. Not ranked challenge smurfs who are passing through.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    3 years ago
    @OldTreeCreeper He also said smurfs that purposely throw games after having a good game so they stay in lower tier lobbies. It is a combination of MM and new accounts.
  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @hayhor

    "He also said smurfs that purposely throw games after having a good game so they stay in lower tier lobbies."

    How on earth could anyone prove this? Isn't it pretty routinely the nature of this game that a completely normal, non-smufing player has a really good game and then it's followed immediately by several drubbings? I guess that makes me a "game thrower!" Quick, somebody ban me!
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    3 years ago
    @reconzero It would be pretty hard. But most people that can get 20 bomb 4k badges won't have a bunch of no damage no kill games over and over. Also sometimes people will resort to flying off the map to sink they account faster.

    And then you consider a guy in rookie or bronze who has a monster game, dies over and over on purpose and then repeats this many many times, locking them in a low rank.
  • EdwardDLuffy's avatar
    EdwardDLuffy
    3 years ago

    @reconzero 

    It's probably the ones you see diving off the map from the drop ship.

    We saw one once do that but landed in 'The Divide' on Broken Moon. It took them ages to 'bounce' off the map and with us shooting at them.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    3 years ago
    @EdwardDLuffy I wondered about this on Broken Moon because the entire edge is blue. So you really can't fall off the map?
  • EdwardDLuffy's avatar
    EdwardDLuffy
    3 years ago

    @hayhor you're probably right. They were bouncing up and down until they were quite some distance out. Then finally they plummeted to oblivion. I'd assumed it was becuz it happened at The Divide but I guess it could happen anywhere.

  • Xubunnytwo's avatar
    Xubunnytwo
    3 years ago
    @hayhor yes I have fallen off Broken Moon. Of course I was running away from someone shooting at me... cliffs suck.