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Re: I still hate Elite

I understand everything you said about survival and BR. I'm not referring to play the game like TDM because that's not the case. There are certain situations where I'll take a risk and run towards gun fire because I know i need better gear for later in the match and killing enemies are a great way to achieve this. 

The great thing about games is everyone gets to play the way they want to play it. If you want to go Rambo go ahead, if you want to hide in every building and win the match with 1 kill and 50 damage, go ahead. The developers shouldn't change the game design to promote one over the other is what I'm getting at. 

Yes, two modes are good and I think this game needs many more IMO. But to change the storm damage just to the elite queue isn't fair. That's the new mode everyone wants to play and improve on with badges and such. Again, to each their own. 

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  • Silz616's avatar
    Silz616
    7 years ago

    @Madd_Brando wrote:

    I understand everything you said about survival and BR. I'm not referring to play the game like TDM because that's not the case. There are certain situations where I'll take a risk and run towards gun fire because I know i need better gear for later in the match and killing enemies are a great way to achieve this. 

    The great thing about games is everyone gets to play the way they want to play it. If you want to go Rambo go ahead, if you want to hide in every building and win the match with 1 kill and 50 damage, go ahead. The developers shouldn't change the game design to promote one over the other is what I'm getting at. 

    Yes, two modes are good and I think this game needs many more IMO. But to change the storm damage just to the elite queue isn't fair. That's the new mode everyone wants to play and improve on with badges and such. Again, to each their own. 


    I get where you're coming from.

    Nobody gives 2 hoots about the ring in casual. That just isn't right imo. It should make you think about your actions, where to relocate and when and when not to engage which it is doing in elite imo. One eye is always on the counter and ring location. Ups the anti imo. Far more intense.

    I've even baited teams to fight and then disengaged and flanked after they shot themselves to pieces. I've also been nailed by the ring when I have been preocupied with fights. That's on me. Bad decisions and situational awareness, but I like the extra pressure/dimension.



  • I get where you're coming from.

    Nobody gives 2 hoots about the ring in casual. That just isn't right imo. It should make you think about your actions, where to relocate and when and when not to engage which it is doing in elite imo. One eye is always on the counter and ring location. Ups the anti imo. Far more intense.

    I've even baited teams to fight and then disengaged and flanked after they shot themselves to pieces. I've also been nailed by the ring when I have been preocupied with fights. That's on me. Bad decisions and situational awareness, but I like the extra pressure/dimension.


    My thoughts exactly. The circle is meant to put pressure on you, not hang out in and flank people. That's the dumbest way to play lol 

  • @jonesy0218 Flanking an opponent is a completely fair and viable in a BR mode. I understand the frustration of a team sitting in the storm with 10 plus med kits and a health drone. There has been times I'll see a fight and plan to flank around their backside while traveling through the storm. In a BR mode you should never feel safe and should expect to get flanked even if the storm is at your back. Again, not one play style is wrong in anyway. You get to play the game how you want to, there is not right or wrong in a BR. It just seems the name of the mode should be renamed. Because it's truly not the elite team winning the match majority of the time. I feel so dirty when i win a match cowering in corners with a one kill victory.
  • jonesy0218's avatar
    jonesy0218
    7 years ago

    Yeah, flanking is definitely a smart way! I completely agree. But purposely going into the storm or staying in the storm to fight because you know it doesn't do much damage is unacceptable. At that point, the circle isn't doing its job. 

    And the idea of people "win a lot" because they "kill a lot" is just one play style... You can win a lot by playing smart and not kill a lot. Having a 6 or 7 team kill game is completely fine. You rushed when it was smart to do so and you had the advantageous spots on the map. 

    I had a game where my friend was trying to revive me by going back in a risky storm, but he had to kill a team of two and two solos... That's completely ridiculous. They might as well leave the storm off the map and just put a game timer on and nobody wins if it expires lol xD I hate how little the circle matters to people. It doesn't take anything away from the Elite Queue. It makes the game play how it's supposed to be played. People are so obsessed with fluffing stats by hot dropping that they forgot how a true survival BR is supposed to be played lol. 

  • neillkorey's avatar
    neillkorey
    7 years ago

    @jonesy0218 

    This is incorrect lol if you get less than 15 kills as a team you do not deserve to win and have played a super boring game

    that is all and good day

  • jonesy0218's avatar
    jonesy0218
    7 years ago

    @neillkorey wrote:

    @jonesy0218 

    This is incorrect lol if you get less than 15 kills as a team you do not deserve to win and have played a super boring game

    that is all and good day


    That's your opinion. The core survival aspect of a BR makes the game interesting to me.


    That's all, and good day.

  • Silz616's avatar
    Silz616
    7 years ago

    @neillkorey wrote:

    @jonesy0218 

    This is incorrect lol if you get less than 15 kills as a team you do not deserve to win and have played a super boring game

    that is all and good day


    It's a BR. Do whatever to survive.

    Different play styles are what keeps the game fresh. No 2 games the same. If everybody played run n gun, the match wouldn't get past round one. It'd be 60 teams face tanking each other from 50 meters lol.

    You can hide, trap, ambush, camp chokes, bait players, play to the outer edge. These are all valid and I've probably used all of them at one time or another. (I got killed by a guy who I heard in a building. There was a loot tick in there and I heard him break it. I took my chance as I thought he'd be looting.... He wasn't. He'd bust the tick and baited me with purple sheild. He was stood high on a box in the corner of the room where I didn't look. I was outplayed. Some would scream camper, I didn't).

    Kill numbers are for TDM period.  BR anything goes, which is why I find it so much better than the FPS's of old.

    Not arguing, just my take on the genre, and I think Apex does this amazingly well. Any play style can work. Killed by a ring edge camper? You were outplayed. Killed by someone on high ground while you run across open space? Outplayed. All are valid tactics imo.

  • RichAC's avatar
    RichAC
    7 years ago

    I actually like the elite ring dmg in game.  really changes the game dramatically.

  • Ive never died from the ring in elite, gotten torched by it as i ran just inside the edge. I attribute this to playing pubg etc where the ring always hurts, as it should to push the action. Also, a lot of you have this game, battle royal, confused with team deathmatch. Doesnt matter if they have less then 15 kills as a team, thats not how you win... you win by being the last to survive! 


  • @Jem450R wrote:

    Ive never died from the ring in elite, gotten torched by it as i ran just inside the edge. I attribute this to playing pubg etc where the ring always hurts, as it should to push the action. Also, a lot of you have this game, battle royal, confused with team deathmatch. Doesnt matter if they have less then 15 kills as a team, thats not how you win... you win by being the last to survive! 


    Yes and now you win just by getting in top 5.

    And you can easily achieve that without firing a single bullet.