Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Been there done that and I would rather sacrifice my mouse and keyboard over cheaters any day of the week.
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
@AzGoshawk wrote:
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
You are right. It's the editable platform that causes the issues. Well, it's the players abusing the platform really but.... Yeah.
If PC's could be locked down, and what you buy is what you get, you almost eliminate the cheat side of things. It also makes it easier to detect changes to the bought hardware and how it "should be" used.
I get that people want better anti cheat, but the platform will always have work arounds as you are dealing open source editable and exploitable platform. For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I hope they can resolve the issues for you and others so you can enjoy this game as intended. I'll keep my fingers crossed bud.
@Silz616 wrote:
@AzGoshawk wrote:
@Silz616 wrote:Also, after reading the many cheater issues on PC for many titles, there is no way in the world anybody could convince me to start online gaming on PC. No way.
I think that platform is seen as a cheat platform. "If you want to cheat, play PC" kinda mentality.
I'll stick to being a console peasant and immediately solve the biggest issue Apex (and many other titles) seem to have.
Maybe because I'm an old guy I like to play with mouse and keyboard, not used to gamepads.
But you are right, PC platform is a "cheat platform" and thats because isn't controlled by a single entity as is the consoles (Sony/PS4, Microsoft/XBox, ...). Also Windows system has some flaws (memory and security) that allows the injection of code into programs.
Keep playing online in consoles because PC gaming is dying, thanks to cheaters.
You are right. It's the editable platform that causes the issues. Well, it's the players abusing the platform really but.... Yeah.
If PC's could be locked down, and what you buy is what you get, you almost eliminate the cheat side of things. It also makes it easier to detect changes to the bought hardware and how it "should be" used.
I get that people want better anti cheat, but the platform will always have work arounds as you are dealing open source editable and exploitable platform. For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I hope they can resolve the issues for you and others so you can enjoy this game as intended. I'll keep my fingers crossed bud.
Windows is not a open source platform. It will never be. But I understand what you meant by "editable".
Quote: For some people to lay this solely on Respawn is not fair imo, and I certainly do not think this is "the end" for them at all.
I'm working in IT industry in 10 years and I honestly disagree with you.
If you make a software and sell it to people. You must have responsibility for it.
Your bank develops new App. You download and use it to access your bank account. Somehow someone hack the app, and steal money from ur bank account. Will you say " It's not fair to blame the Bank because I run it on an editable platform?"
PC is a cheating platform, yes, it's also the platform where most elites are. Take a wild look on Twitch, the majority of good players are on this cheating platform.
There must be a reason why Shroud , Dizzy, Diegosaurs, Ninja, Doc prefer PC over console for shooter games. Because they want to compete with fellow good players, not someone lying on their sofa, playing Apex on 60 inch TV with the loudspeaker.
The only way to fix cheaters on pc is if some how we can launch the game from ea's end and not have the files on our pc's that would be the future of pc gaming i think google is doing something like this called stadia.
Pros don’t care about playing the best people pros care about the money and if you truly believe that if the money was on xbox or PS4 they would still play pc you are crazy people follow money just the way it is
I get it you are an elitist and yes skill ceiling for shooters is higher on pc but if you are not playing games for money you should be playing for fun not so you can feel good about yourself for being better than console players
it’s like being faster than a 100 year old person when you are in your 20’s that’s neat you should be so get off your high horse and wake up if you think your cool because you are better than console players it is because you suck compared to the pc players
Or having the files and not the exe file that they inject and launch the game through origin which you load the *.exe from the server that cannot be injected if this would be possible?
maybe this could be the solution?
The new xbox and ps5 will be based on pc hardware i bet 100% cheating on the next consoles will be rife.
If you have not used xim don’t tell me how great it works have played with the best players on xbox up until about 3 to 5 years ago and guess what they all used controllers and the best players now to my knowledge still use controllers on console and xim has been around since the beginning of the 360 yet the best players on consoles have never used them but your right xim must work exactly like mnk does on pc
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First, "have played with the best players on Xbox" is a wild statement lol.
It's common that when people try to prove something, they will say such thing.
When my friend tried to convince me to buy Sennheiser headphone, he said " Oh , trust me, I had friends who are artists, singers and best audiophiles around the country, guess what? all of them use Sennheiser 🙂
It's a wild statement I must say 🙂 and even if some people use XIM, they probably dun go and say " hey i'm good at this game and I use XIM"
Would it sound better to say I play with the people that use to win all the e sports tournaments on console but they moved to pc cause that is where the money is that better for you?
And guess what at all the e sports tournaments they used a controller at the bf invitational between America and Europe they used controllers is that acceptable for you sorry I said best
@warslag "The purpose of an anti-cheat is not to catch and ban cheats." Then you said it is. Uhh yeah the purpose of an anti-cheat is to keep cheats off of that game. If the thread is accurate, then they knew Apex was a cash grab from the get go with a great chance of this happening. There's not many surprises with projects like this, it's only a surprise to the consumer. If they said they won't make changes to anti-cheat and you look at how much work they've put into Apex since launch, it's plain to see they don't care if it fails. It's been a bot festival on the servers for over a month.
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