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Re: Predators Farming RP faster in SA servers

@Solid_EXC for people who have seen similar threads, read something more detailed on ranked in Apex and especially tried various locations themselves this is not a surprise.

I have seen nr.1 and nr.2 Preds at the time (last season?) actually go for the mentioned server and explaining in their stream exactly why...no surprise = they want easier matchups, easier grind vs the rest of the Predators who were chasing their desired nr.1 and 2 spot on the list.

Also, it is a known fact that:
- Asian servers are much more populated with hackers than any other
- NA servers on average are much easier than EU pretty much on any level
- Ping does not affect your gameplay too much in Apex (there is a whole official page explaining how 20hz servers work and why they are 20hz) = you can easily jump locations which would be a major issue in any other FPS game with a different setup where ping 100ms+ is close to unplayable, in Apex I actually feel the exact opposite and regularly play with up to 180 ping no problem
- pure number of people per location + SBMM = the more popular locations you play the lower the chance of running into higher ranked lobbies and vice versa

So yeah another pat on the back to Apex community and especially streamers who bring this loophole to masses!

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  • @EREGDS Thanks for your words.
    now is an update with a region block only for rankeds !
    This is the best days of all !!!!!!!
    Thank you RESPAWN !
    Genburten and anotehr streamers comment that today.
    Yesterday i play in Platinum IV with no points.
    And a pair of plays i allmost level up. Why ? becouse there is no more preds in my lobbies !

    thank YOUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!!!
  • @EREGDS I think he's referring to this. 

    Can someone on PC confirm this? Not everything the pros say should be treated as facts immediately. Ottr, another content creator, replied to Gen said that he can still switch servers.

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man We'll see. One wag had this to say: "A pro player could probably tweet that the cure to COVID is to play on controller with aim assist disabled and it would go viral."
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    CCbathwater
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man I actually watched them play, Genburten, Zipeth and yubn, while they were up in arms about this. The matchmaking did slow on them, suddenly took like forever to gain even 20 players in queue, but there wasn't any indication that it was a region block, might as well just have been a server issue or whatever, it is Apex after all.
  • EREGDS's avatar
    EREGDS
    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man this sucks... there are not so many Diamonds in EU plus if you play at nights... well less Apex more sleep I guess ๐Ÿ™‚

    p.s. still can play NA atm.
  • There is not official news.

    BTW i lost all my points again VS fake predators farming RP in South america platinum lobbies.

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  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago

    I mean, you shouldn't have to...but why don't you just queue on another server?

  • Solid_EXC's avatar
    Solid_EXC
    4 years ago

    Yeah i have to play in NA i think with 150 + ping but at least without fakes full stacks of predators

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  • pandareno1999's avatar
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    4 years ago

    @Solid_EXC I recently started playing with a buddy who lives nine time zones away. I was quite surprised to learn that my game play was not terribly affected by playing at close to 200 ping.

    Again, sorry about your situation, just trying to be helpful!  Good luck!

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @pandareno1999 I play on EU servers at 110 to 150 ping all the time. As long as you don't hot drop to compete for loot and keep in mind that they see you first you can still have good success.
  • @Solid_EXC My friends and I sometimes play in NA servers to have enemies with different playstyles compared to our usual JPN servers. Though itโ€™s 150+ ping, I think itโ€™s tolerable.

    It sucks that preds are abusing the SA servers. I hope Respawn somehow finds a way to minimize this but I doubt this is on their priority list.
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    pandareno1999
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    4 years ago
    @Cheese9Man You've given me food for thought. Now that I think on it, I've been doing a little bit better than usual. I had not yet considered that I might be playing against easier opponents!

    @hayhor I had considered the input lag for picking up loot, but didn't think about how I might want to adjust how I begin an engagement because of that.
  • EREGDS's avatar
    EREGDS
    4 years ago

    @pandareno1999this official info answers your situation about pings: https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/servers-netcode-developer-deep-dive

    Indeed Apex is one of those games where 100+ ms ping is actually playable - this season when playing at night I also switch to NA instead of EU servers given EU goes to sleep and there are literally no people in Discord and I don't want to soloq, also NA lobbies are easier (don't play them intentionally when I can easily get games in EU).

    On the one hand this is a good news, on the other hand all those no-regs and other weird stuff which is present in Apex and not in other FPS games are tightly related to this 20hz stuff and how Apex "predicts" stuff.

    As for what @Solid_EXC posted - sad story in my experience is that people who are ready to "cheat" usually do cheat in various ways = many of those Preds who exploit the system I am sure are doing it in multiple other ways be it not recoil, teaming up and farming with other teams, hacks, etc. that's just how humans are wired in my opinion - all or nothing ๐Ÿ™‚

    That's why I am totally against worshiping those "pros" because while they have put in a lot of time at least streaming and maybe sharing one or two insights regular players will be able to use on daily basis, most of the time it is smoke and mirrors, theatricals, crazy marketing pushing subs/products, because that's what it is all about for them, maybe not all pros but most of them for sure - I guess we all have this feeling when watching some players who genuinely enjoy playing the game and sharing the knowledge and players who are there to just say "omg thanks for subs, you are the best" every 3-5 seconds. I am sure that people who are not mentally stable (most of Apex community sadly) become even more unstable when they receive their first paycheck from Twitch, Youtube or any other affiliate that provides cashflow. I am sure many just flip the switch "ok this is great, easy money, I will do whatever to keep it up, because the choice is this vs. school and job 9-5 that pays a fraction of what I get now".

    In my opinion true to the game fanboys should report those streamers as soon as they see stuff like this happening be it smurffing, changing servers, using game exploits etc. I mean you don't even need to record and upload a video, streamers already done it for you, just open anti-cheat page -> post stream link and ask Apex to apply measures to the streamer to motivate the person earn the Pred the right way.

  • i Die by a TTV or YT small channels several times

    I record them and put screens here but EA delete all my screens.

    I have more from yesterday

    And Yes if they are abussing to farm RP for sure is doing all the thing you mention, no recoil, wallhacks, aimboting.

    Die by a full stack of PRED # 23 # 85 and # 146 sexyboy sexygirl and the another one with chinesse or JP characters its not funny when we are platinum and gold.

    I ask to the streamers and only one was honest and says yes we are here becouse is easy only 1 or 2 teams are good and the rest is easy KP

    But the rest no no no no i dont do it that.

    I think i have done with all this is taking to nowhere.

    Play in NA will be the only way

    Thanks to all of you guys !

    see you

  • @Solid_EXCThey deleted the screenshots since it's the forum rule not to name and shame people even if you have proof. Report players through the proper channels either by joining Hideout's discord or sending a tweet to Rin if you're in Tokyo servers. You can also send the videos/screenshots by following the steps here https://help.ea.com/en/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment/

    Like what I've said in anoother thread, people will do everything to have an advantage to win and rank up. Either by abusing the SA server or using cheats. I hope respawn finds a way to stop the SA server issue without region blocking everyone.

  • EREGDS's avatar
    EREGDS
    4 years ago
    I mean one solution would be to block them by timezones say if it is +6-9H difference you can join to e.g. play at nights, otherize it will be sad...