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Re: Solo with friends is far to easy to do

@DoYaSeeMe Really?! It would negatively effect the game? Are you kidding?! If they want to game together go play on teams.


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This is cheating no matter how you view it. Your argument saying it might negatively impact the game is not that great. That’s like saying you should let people use aimbot and other hacks because those who use it won’t play the game otherwise. They can play fairly or not at all.

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  • DoYaSeeMe's avatar
    DoYaSeeMe
    7 years ago

    @DarthValtrex Yes, it will, because the queue times will be much higher and because not being able to play against a friend occasionally takes some of the fun away. Also, this rule can't stop you from removing the friends from your list or team up with someone random in the game. In some cases, the available number of players on a servers is low, so those having many friends in the game may end up sitting on the bench forever.

    I am not supporting cheating, but neither ideas that can create more problems when attempting to fix one. Also, teaming up in solos is not officially cheating until stated in the game's rules of conduct, it doesn't fall in the same category as hacks that exploit code weaknesses. The reporting that can be done at this point is more likely to help them frame these rules and think of other measures to prevent this from happening, if the solo mode will become permanent.

  • Jem450R's avatar
    Jem450R
    7 years ago

    Games code of conduct YOUR PLAYING SOLOS stay solo!

  • Haha, "your" (you're) funny. I remember a case where an RV owner went in a ditch after putting the vehicle on autopilot and leaving the steering wheel. He then sued the RV manufacturer and won because they didn't detail enough in the vehicle's manual what autopilot is/isn't supposed to do. The "solo" term is relative until Apex clearly draws the rules.

    In a ranked solo mode, the waiting queues would fill slower, especially for the top ranks. In that case, counting up to join the match simultaneously wouldn't even matter, you could join a queue 2 minutes later than your friend and still be in the same match.

  • Fr3dY2's avatar
    Fr3dY2
    Rising Ace
    7 years ago

    But that's just a "moral" rule, out of the game Term of Services, isn't it?

    I haven't found any official responses about teaming in Solos being forbidden (saw some posts about the Studio looking at this issue, but that's it).

  • i don't understand why people use "your" instead of "you're", they don't really mean the same thing

  • Jem450R's avatar
    Jem450R
    7 years ago

    Maybe because im on a phone and DGAF?  Society really is * if you believe just because there isn't a rule then its allowed. ITS SOLO MODE, it shouldn't have to be spelled out that your not suppose to have teammates in a SOLO mode... the very definition of solo is 1 person. Bunch of douchecanoes to think otherwise. 

  • Fr3dY2's avatar
    Fr3dY2
    Rising Ace
    7 years ago

    @Jem450R The issue is that, as long as it's not forbidden by game rules, you can't do much but rant in the forums... 😞

  • @Fr3dY2 some people just don't understand moral values in their life, so all we can do is just to move on, and let them be.
  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago

    I would bet you're one of the people who is exploiting this right now. There is a difference between playing against friends and working together. It creates a huge advantage for a group of 3-4 players in the same Solo match working together to eliminate targets. It's nearly impossible to take people out 2 or 3vs 1, unless your skills are far superior to the 2 or 3 your trying to take out. 

    All your arguments are mute and pointless.
    1. You can fix this issue you by staggering the queue time. Just random amounts between .01-.59 seconds would create enough variation that it would put friends in different games. a 1 minute queue is not terrible especially if it creates a fun and fair environment for everyone. 
    2. Quit showing the champion so that it's more difficult to identify if you're in the same game.

    If they don't fix this, then you're going to turn Solo into another team match type game. No one will play it truly solo, you'll just have groups of friends trying to queue at the same-time and get into the same game. 

    It's this kind of garbage that's ruined EA reputation with a lot of gamers.  You have a handful of morons who think it's fun to cheat and they ruin it for everyone else. 

  • IGuruDevI's avatar
    IGuruDevI
    7 years ago

    EA have useless game rules. they play with their friends and still not getting punishment. USELESS. if someone gets 5 votes that helping with an enemy then he/she must kick out from matchfor fair gaming environment but Respawn just watch on their profit like giving paid items. the current position of the game is 1%  free cosmetics and 99% are paid. this is what respawn want but they dont want fair gaming environment because they are not able to give it. 

  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago

    And that is why EA is in such financial trouble. If the creators of Apex think I’ll spend another dime on this game w/ this kind of garbage going on in their game, they are insane.

    good games that get large player volumes don’y have this stuff going on. If it is they fix it real quick. 

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    7 years ago

    As has been stated twice in this thread, it's a beta...they were probably aware this would happen and were looking to see if various other bugs,glitches and QoL issues popped up so that these could be amended on final release...as i would have thought most of you would get how a beta test works this shouldn't even need to be pointed out lol.

    When solo inevitably does get implemented they will likely throw solo teaming into the code of conduct but until then i suppose the simple solution is to not play solo and you won't have to deal with the 'cheaters'.

  • EryxApex's avatar
    EryxApex
    7 years ago
    @UncleAlbert1802 He just stated that he was able to enter a game with a friend through timing. Not that he actually exploited being able to team up.
  • DoYaSeeMe's avatar
    DoYaSeeMe
    7 years ago

    @DarthValtrexIf you're referring to me, place that bet, I want to get rich. I haven't even tried teaming up as you did. I'm also like 90% of the time in team mode, as I find solo mode a bit dry, if not boring.

    Sometimes, the queue fills up slowly, taking minutes until there are enough players to start a game. This means that a friend can join the same match even if he pressed 45 seconds later.

    Not showing the champion would also eliminate the bonus xp that you get if you kill him.

    The best way to fix issues is to look at them from all sides. That's what can be discussed on forums, infinitely more constructive than ranting and naming people all sort of ways without proof.