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Re: The PeaceKeeper should have never been made part of the loot pool again

@Vdstrk It can work with placing them in care packages but I'm not a fan of having pubs different from rank cause at most I use pubs to practice and that wouldn't really mean much if there's a difference between the two modes. I'm not even a fan of having pubs/rank different from pro for the same reason but that's for a different topic.

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  • Vdstrk's avatar
    Vdstrk
    Seasoned Ace
    5 years ago

    @Daze623

    I am not sure what you mean. Would pubs just be a warm up for you? Why would it matter if an enemy would use a gun or the other in a warm up?

    I think i kinda see your point. Would you rather have a single game mode and that would be ranked? I would agree with you on it.

  • @Vdstrk
    Yeah I used to play pubs as practice before I completely gave up with rank. The thing about meta is it's affected by a lot of things. Lets say that they put Mastiff and PK in the carepackage. This would mean they'll take out 2 guns and add it back to ground loot and those 2 guns can change the meta. And if the meta in pubs is different to ranked then most of your practice in pubs would be meaningless as you'll be used to pubs meta not ranked meta.

    I don't think people would like to have ranked mode as a single mode now as some people like to chill and have fun and that might not sit well with people who want to tryhard.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    5 years ago
    @Daze623 Agree. There cant be a difference from pubs to ranked. Pubs is where people try stuff and have fun. Ranked is where you really see what is meta because at some point the try hards will all gravitate to what they feel is strongest.
  • @Vdstrk Mastif is garbage tier now. Before the nerf it used to be decent. PK is balanced I think. Eva-8 is still the king. You should never pick a mastif now over eva-8 or PK. Between PK and eva-8, it depends which one you like more. The way the shotguns are done in this game is overall pretty bad. How I would do it is give them consistent dmg rather then pellet dmg and make them really strong 0-10 meters as in 2-4 shots to kill, but really bad damge as the distance increases to the point they do no dmg at all at like 25+ m meters.

    I think mastif was relatively fine before the nerf, it was an rng gun,I would get 110-120 1 shot dmg with it and the next time it would be 12 12 20, so in the end it was balancing out somewhat. Now however it is worthless.

  • @Tad844 wrote:
    @VdstrkMastif is garbage tier now. Before the nerf it used to be decent. PK is balanced I think. Eva-8 is still the king. You should never pick a mastif now over eva-8 or PK. Between PK and eva-8, it depends which one you like more. The way the shotguns are done in this game is overall pretty bad. How I would do it is give them consistent dmg rather then pellet dmg and make them really strong 0-10 meters as in 2-4 shots to kill, but really bad damge as the distance increases to the point they do no dmg at all at like 25+ m meters.

    I think mastif was relatively fine before the nerf, it was an rng gun,I would get 110-120 1 shot dmg with it and the next time it would be 12 12 20, so in the end it was balancing out somewhat. Now however it is worthless.

    Mastiff was absolutely broken, and everyone who was skilled enough know this. It was * a whole squad, and the damage is still high, but now you actually need a bit of skill to using it, and landing the full power, not spam mindlessly with it. And with Mastiff you can easy take a trying to run target from you, unlike with Eva8, who has no range at all.

    Shotguns in every single game is a super easy to use, and super powerful. They are created so casual doesn`t have to preciously aim, and have a chance against better player.

    PK has always been OP, in its entire existent. I got no problem being back at the loot, but they should not have buffed the spread/range of it.

    As far as the damage goes i won`t mind if it need just 2 hit to kill(you can still do this with PK now), but the spread/range of the shots should be way way lower, so you actually need a good aim to land your shots, and give the enemy a chance to counter it with a good strafing pattern.

    Shotgun range should not be higher than 0-20 meter, everything above this should do from 0-10 damage.  But atm both PK and Mastiff do crazy amount of damage for shotgun in a even higher ranger than this.

    The easiest way to balance PK is to just the reduce the radius of its shots.

  • LordloshBang's avatar
    LordloshBang
    5 years ago

    Yeah i can`t count to that much time i have been taken down on low hp, and trying to disengage on a 30+ meter distance with a Mastiff.

    And i almost all the time escape when the enemy player is trying to get me down with a tracking weapon like R99.

    Like they said the last few shots are the hardest to land. :D Its easy to land your shots with a 15cm crosshair, compare to 1cm on a fast moving and changing direction pace game.

  • @Tad844 No way the mastiff was decent my dude. The memory of Horizon mains landing on my head with mastiffs is still fresh.


    The PK and other shotguns are in a good position right now. The bow needs major nerfs (more bullet drop and slower projectile please) and maybe the spitfire needs a tad bit more tweaking/nerfing. Other than those, the all the guns are balanced and in no way broken. I usually run SMG/AR with either the wingman or longbow and I definitely miss the skullpiercer real bad.