Yesterday had my first ranked game (no smurfing, actual P4+ lobbies with last split Diamond players) that I won being solo from the very beginning of the game:(picture edited, thanks all for pointing out about the player names 🙂 )As you can see from the stats, nothing great to show off, except the fact that I won the game - in my opinion, the ultimate goal of Ranked Apex.Why I am mentioning it here - because this is an objective hard fact people will not be able to argue about. I made the right decisions to win the game. Sure there might be other "right" versions, but this was not wrong either and if followed by other team members, the result would be the same and even better (more kills, faster win etc. etc.) - meaning there was no way my team mates following my lead would impair the outcome.Now to the point - during this game I was called:Newb, s-tty team player - because my colleagues dropped together with 2 (or more) teams on the small location and I first pinged alternative, then announced my suggestion via coms (audio), yet they still went for a much riskier option...died and started calling me newb for not landing with them and at least 6 more enemies, like it would make any difference given then took out just 1 of them.Rat - when I was not able to recover their banners due to other team still camping on them = going 1 vs 3 on ranked, they called me rat. Same happened when I was not engaging in fights at a close distance while having charge rifle available, avoid fights when I saw that I will not be able to rotate out of them / catch the zone in time = playing smart positioning, realizing that I am alone and have huge disadvantage, only can join 3rd party fights or look out for 1v1 in case of some random solo players in the game.Toxic player - after trying to explain the logic behind my decisions (including one stated above on landing and positioning), I was called toxic for criticizing - comparing my moves vs dead teammates moves - in the game. And this has happened oh so many times when I openly state my opinion on someone's gameplay in a structured feedback form e.g. you did this, better do that because of a,b,c.The aim of this post is to maybe make more members of the community think a bit more about what these (and maybe other regularly used) terms actually mean.And maybe rename these terms to something more objective and less offensive like low-risk taker / lower risk tolerance / not so good in a close encounter, chaotic fight player, passive, positioning oriented player, feedback, and structural criticism.Plus most importantly remove the "negative" label from these terms - each of us has our own style and the fact that there is no 2 kill 1300 damage win badge does not make it less valuable than "so much desired" 4k 20 bomb etc. given I am pretty sure there were many people with these badges in this game who still in the end lost to me... 2 kill 1300 damage toxic ratting newb.Let's use our heads a bit more and stop following brainless trends set by some community influencers because one or the other reason.

@Eshshshss I play the game how I choose and I choose not to have teammates audio on. I want to enjoy my play, I even turn off the pinging nonsence and refuse to be pulled into a hot hot drop. The game is not necessarily about the win, more enjoying how I play, and I love to survive until the end melee esp in ranked. It really gets my heart going. Pubs and arena don't. From a team perspective wraith says its all about being the last one alive, and I play wraith 😃And as mentioned Edit your picture. I have previously posted this ranked win, so just for your amusement:

@Eshshshss You need to edit the gamer tags out of that photo, or its going to be removed. Cheers! Good post.

@damsonwhufndthis You, sir or madam, are delirious. Fora are places for all walks of life, but mostly the mouthbreathing kind come here. The rationals tho, are the ones who stay

@Eshshshss @OldTreeCreeper If Apex can implement a deranking system next season I would be happy staying in Gold lobbies. It’s the perfect balance of chill without 3/4 of the lobby dying before round 1 ends 😛 Going through plat lobbies just to maintain my diamond rank wasn’t worth it anymore. LOL.

@OldTreeCreeper That’s a nice play and a huge W!

Eshshshss

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

Regularly used terms in Apex

Yesterday had my first ranked game (no smurfing, actual P4+ lobbies with last split Diamond players) that I won being solo from the very beginning of the game:

(picture edited, thanks all for pointing out about the player names 🙂 )

As you can see from the stats, nothing great to show off, except the fact that I won the game - in my opinion, the ultimate goal of Ranked Apex.

Why I am mentioning it here - because this is an objective hard fact people will not be able to argue about. I made the right decisions to win the game. Sure there might be other "right" versions, but this was not wrong either and if followed by other team members, the result would be the same and even better (more kills, faster win etc. etc.) - meaning there was no way my team mates following my lead would impair the outcome.

Now to the point - during this game I was called:

Newb, s-tty team player - because my colleagues dropped together with 2 (or more) teams on the small location and I first pinged alternative, then announced my suggestion via coms (audio), yet they still went for a much riskier option...died and started calling me newb for not landing with them and at least 6 more enemies, like it would make any difference given then took out just 1 of them.
Rat - when I was not able to recover their banners due to other team still camping on them = going 1 vs 3 on ranked, they called me rat. Same happened when I was not engaging in fights at a close distance while having charge rifle available, avoid fights when I saw that I will not be able to rotate out of them / catch the zone in time = playing smart positioning, realizing that I am alone and have huge disadvantage, only can join 3rd party fights or look out for 1v1 in case of some random solo players in the game.
Toxic player - after trying to explain the logic behind my decisions (including one stated above on landing and positioning), I was called toxic for criticizing - comparing my moves vs dead teammates moves - in the game. And this has happened oh so many times when I openly state my opinion on someone's gameplay in a structured feedback form e.g. you did this, better do that because of a,b,c.

The aim of this post is to maybe make more members of the community think a bit more about what these (and maybe other regularly used) terms actually mean.

And maybe rename these terms to something more objective and less offensive like low-risk taker / lower risk tolerance / not so good in a close encounter, chaotic fight player, passive, positioning oriented player, feedback, and structural criticism.

Plus most importantly remove the "negative" label from these terms - each of us has our own style and the fact that there is no 2 kill 1300 damage win badge does not make it less valuable than "so much desired" 4k 20 bomb etc. given I am pretty sure there were many people with these badges in this game who still in the end lost to me... 2 kill 1300 damage toxic ratting newb.

Let's use our heads a bit more and stop following brainless trends set by some community influencers because one or the other reason.

discussion

17 Replies

pandareno1999
Hero+
4 years ago
@Eshshshss You need to edit the gamer tags out of that photo, or its going to be removed. Cheers! Good post.
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@Eshshshss I play the game how I choose and I choose not to have teammates audio on. I want to enjoy my play, I even turn off the pinging nonsence and refuse to be pulled into a hot hot drop.
The game is not necessarily about the win, more enjoying how I play, and I love to survive until the end melee esp in ranked. It really gets my heart going. Pubs and arena don't.
From a team perspective wraith says its all about being the last one alive, and I play wraith 😃
And as mentioned Edit your picture.
I have previously posted this ranked win, so just for your amusement:
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@OldTreeCreeper That’s a nice play and a huge W!
maximas1986
4 years ago
@OldTreeCreeper GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGS 🙂
damsonwhufndthis
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Eshshshssyou can see this type of "delusional" players are pretty frequent breed, and you can find them literally in almost any game possible
Your post while might be helpful won't reach lot of people I fear, since basicaly only good players or players with a brain go on forums.
Koochi-Q
4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis You, sir or madam, are delirious. Fora are places for all walks of life, but mostly the mouthbreathing kind come here. The rationals tho, are the ones who stay
Eshshshss
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@OldTreeCreeperon the one hand we could argue about the "free will / choice" here and how BR team games where solo play is not available should be played. E.g., in my opinion, there is no room for such discussion in public games - players who don't like/want to play in team and make it work so to say must play no fill. Ranked... well it is what it is.

Plus I am 100% sure this style, approach is not viable in higher ranked lobbies - in this clip I can clearly see multiple mistakes done by opponents that would not happen in higher tier games and you would have a higher chance of losing e.g. Bloodhound did not scan, Pathfinder seemed to be on the other side of the fence instead of the high ground on the building, octain didn't use jumpad or stim to dodge the fight etc.

As I always say - 9 out of 10 times the winning team will have 3 players on their team no matter the skill level, because in Apex more often than not a good low skill team will outperform 1 sometimes even 2 Master/Predator level players.

Long story short - can't compliment on your approach of distancing from people and seeing that as a solution as it is a short-term/result limiting one.
Eshshshss
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@damsonwhufndthis will see, time will tell. Upvote in the meantime and in the worst case at least we know/see the names of "good players" already who can team up in-game and do some damage 🙂
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@Eshshshss I've played thousands of games. It took a long while to realise that both in ranked and pubs I was getting pulled into a hot drop situation that both I and my fellow hot droppers had no hope of exiting. That imo is irrational. I press the solo button and the jm had a choice! If u hot drop or go somewhere I am uninterested in going, then good luck, otherwise I will join you. I have done a reasonable amount of damage and have a reasonable amount of kills recorded. The solo button is there so it must be intentional by the developer, not as you suggest there for no reason, nor how you think other players should play the game. I am free to play the game as I choose.
What you did not allow for in the above video is that my team metes were killed and I was unable to get to their banners.
This style as you call it is only when I go solo. It is not my intention to get into higher lobbies, I want to enjoy the game. I got to diamond once and never again. It was very hard work and not what I would call fun.
As I mentioned, however I choose to play, I will not let a mike numpty ruin my evening with their toxic nonsence, which from this forums posts I understand is all too prevalent.
My opponents mistakes is an interesting observation. What you don't know is I had been in this exact end circle before and knew the terrain intimately, so regardless I had an advantage. Also wraiths hit box was smaller. 😃 I'm not looking for compliments as I enjoyed the game.
Here's another more recent win for you to enjoy 😃 see if you can spot my opponents mistakes in this one.
OldTreeCreeper
Hero+
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man I was lucky, it was so intense I nearly had a heart attack. But as mentioned above I had been in this exact finishing circle before. 😃