Forum Discussion

Revanchist_KOR's avatar
5 years ago

Seer is overpowered

After playing many rounds I think that the Seer disturbs the gameplay and is definitely broken.

Problem 1: Everyone sees everyone.

Hackers do the exact same thing. There is simply no fun in it when both teams see each other. And considering how overpowered the Seer is, every team will have it in their team.

Problem 2: Damage from his tactical ability, which can be used every 30 sec!

It is simply annoying that it costs nothing to hit other players through the walls. How can I defend against it? What if all teams in the last circles have Seers. How many batteries do I need to stand a minute in a close proximity from other teams.

Problem 3: Passive is just another hack

Why do we ever need the Bloodhound. I get it, that there are nuances in how their abilities work, but Seer literally sees the heartbeats in such huge area non-stop. No way to hide and it makes other legends kind of useless.

Problem 4: Tactical interrupts healing

Again, how can I defend against it? In the game, where third partying is a part of the gameplay, it doesn't let you heal before the next squad attacks.

45 Replies

  • NickBeam27's avatar
    NickBeam27
    4 years ago

    I hear you....but lets look at Bloodhound. One of the devs tried to justify seer using BH. First off, we all know BH's tac has shorter range / it has a cool down / also, BH has to choose wisely when to use it and when not to use it - as using it gives away his position to teams possibly able to flank from the side or behind. Also - every time BH uses his tac, the team being scanned have a ballpark idea of where it came from hence to know the ruff positioning of BH without knowing exactly where he is. 

    When I get scanned by BH's tac, first you know its coming before it sweeps across you, so before it sweeps me, I quickly go in a direction I don't really want to go in....the second the sweep passes over me and then disappears, I quickly bust a 180 and head in the opposite direction, hoping that BH thinks I am going in the direction he saw me going during scan. As I do this, I know that BH may also anticipate this and do the same thing. Cool part is, I won't know until I go around the corner and either his back is to me or he is ready for me and kicks my *. Either way, its exciting and makes for some good fun!  I am sure there is more that I am missing but that's enough to make my point. Seer - well, that's a whole different ball game. I personally wouldn't call BH's tac a wall hack as it is short, takes time to use and has negative factors to using it as well. I have never had a problem with BH. I think he is a great legend and his skills are excellent for this BR. That sad reality that seer's passive is actually more powerful than BH's tac is ridiculous. 

    Look at wraith, her passive says, "I think I'm being targeted." - it doesn't tell you exactly where from. Same with BH's passive, it shows you that people have been here and went this way. It doesn't tell you exactly when they went through there, or where they are exactly. Its just a lil something to assist you but won't make or break the outcome of a match, fire fight and so on. 

    Seer's passive is probably more powerful than the average legends tac and even more powerful than some ults - that right there is a problem on a biblical scale. 

    So I found out today while playing that seer's tac, also stops you from reviving teammates. WTF!?  My caustic partner went down and while reviving him I got to about 90% and then seer's tac went off, and it not only stopped the revive, but also kicked me back a couple feet. We then died. Really respawn, really?? You have 18 characters and not one of them whether it be passive's, tactical or ult have the ability to stop healing, shielding or reviving - except seer. What were you guys thinking?? Gibby's bombs doesn't even stop me from reviving, neither do bullets but seer stops all. 

    I noticed too many times playing the last couple days when in duos mode, when I am selecting first, my random partner always puts his cursor onto seer telling me that they wish to select him. But once I select my main, they immediately pick someone else. I laughed my * off after the 15th time this happened, realizing that the reason they do this is because they don't want to play with a seer on their team. 

    I have backed out of every single match where one of my random teammates picks a seer. I refuse to play with a seer as I feel terrible for using him and honestly I feel like a gutless coward and do not wish to play well or win in such a dishonorable way. 

    My son and I played duos and he used seer for the first time. We won that match with ease. It was pathetic. He just kept saying, "oh there's a guy right here, wait a sec and I'll tell you how many there are, what shield they have and how much of it is full." I felt horrible wiping out players that way. Just disgusting. After our win, my son said "that was terrible and I will never use him again!"

    Nerfing his passive will not make a single difference at this point. A possible solution to a passive for seer that matches many others would be just a heart beat pulse like now only. Nothing else, and have it pulse when a enemy is within a certain radius like 20-50 feet. That way seer knows that someone is close by but does not know where, Like wraiths passive or BH's passive. Seems fair to me. 

    But for the love of god!!! - please do something about seer's tac and ult in regards to the unplayable visual garbage plaguing the entire screen. Just literally unplayable. Visually disgusting. Worst thing ever!!

  • @Revanchist_KORnot overpowered in general, but it's his tactical.
    let's list what seer can do with a simple button press.
    1-interrupt healing/shielding
    2-interrupt reviving
    3-stun the enemy
    4-blind the enemy
    5-visual disturbance with view vibration and the dust effect so actually after you get stunned, blinded and your screen shakes all over there is a second or two where you can not see him as there will be dust all over the place
    yeah yeah I know 3,4 and 5 is considered as one but it's also not because if someone is not bothered by the flash then maybe bothered by the other things
    6.interrupt tactical of other legends
    7.view enemies for 18 seconds or so ( am not sure exactly how long )
    8. the sound effect itself is so loud and disturbing.

    maybe next legends will have mini nuke as tactical every 30 seconds

    and I thought valk tactical is overpowered but I was wrong, she is a noob in this field

    edit: I remembered that he can view the health status of all enemies who got hit by tactical.....sheesh

    can someone add another to get 10 effects from one tactical of season 10  

About Apex Legends General Discussion

Discuss the latest news and game information around Apex Legends in the community forums.31,282 PostsLatest Activity: 28 minutes ago