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Renegade_Prime8's avatar
Renegade_Prime8
5 years ago

So are these so called pros actually pros? (Recoil)

I stopped playing this game for a week now, but I still watch the tournaments but now I stopped watching that too.

I don't have a favorite streamer I just watch who I think it is interesting, but I think the recoil amongst "pros" is so damn obvious and it just blows my mind that nobody addresses or looks over the fact that they use macros.

I watched 3 streamers all 3 of them perfect straight line no recoil on the havoc and the flatline, which is one of the hardest guns to handle, do not tell me that even if these people invested X amount of hours makes them like a God where they pick up every damn gun and then can just handle the recoil on all in a straight line, that is not possible when you have the 3x on the recoil becomes more difficult, these guys, nope still a straight line

I think this is extremely sad because pro players should show an example for others that hard work and dedication is the way

People are complaining that there are so many cheaters, what do we expect when our beloved streamers/pros cheat as well?

A lot of people invest their time to get better without cheating, no favor for them

Every time, this topic was brought up on Reddit it faded away because people don't want to accept the fact that their favorite streamer is cheating, are we really this blind?

I want to ask something, what are we expecting from this game honestly? Cheating community, recycled LTM, bugs what exist since season 0 and never been fixed or gotten worse.

I am not against the game, but these facts just make it bad, really bad

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  • Daze623's avatar
    Daze623
    5 years ago

    @E9ine_ACI finished a match and he was using keyboard and mouse honestly nothing suspicious was going on. Are you sure that they are allowed have they made a statement on it?

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago

    @Daze623They sure have not said it is not allowed and my post is over 4 months old of many players complaining and comparing. Not a single staff member has spoken on it with 16 pages. One the highest talked about things in numbers of pages nearly. So with that being said with no staff commenting on it then it is not being enforced.

    Just like they will not comment on this page either about it cause its nearly same topic i brought up months ago with no answers or clairity.

  • Daze623's avatar
    Daze623
    5 years ago
    @E9ine_AC I just checked the TOS
    "Use or distribute unauthorized software programs or tools (such as "auto", "macro", hack or cheat software), or use exploits, bugs or problems in an EA Service to gain unfair advantage."
    so it is not allowed as it falls on exploits and/or bug and macro is there too.
    Although yeah a more thorough statement would be nice.
  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    5 years ago

    I watched a few matches.

    First, esports mostly bore me.  I mean, as a thing to check out, sure.  But I play games more than watch them.  The common come back to this is 'But you watch pro football, even if you play regular football right?" No. No I don't.  Pro-football and any pro-sports is boring: it's a bunch of mercenaries and people somehow pretend that the colors and the city mean something.  They don't.  And that's why fans get all busted up when their team leaves their city for more money...not really because they left but the reality finally hits them that no...the sports team doesn't care about the fans other than to make money off them (even if the players themselves do).

    So, back to this game.  If watching a league game, the absolutely least interesting thing to watch is the gun play.  Who cares if they use macros or are super accurate?  Pros are pros, they wouldn't be if they couldn't hit people with their shots.  

    It's more interesting to see the strategy and the choice of weapons, the positioning, and how it all comes down in the end.  And it has proven some things about the core of the Apex game that, to me, people should realize.  Like stop crying about camping, camping is not a problem unless you don't know how to crack a camp, which is on the player, not the campers. And 'third partying' is not a thing, it's a Battle Royal with lots of teams for a reason...people like it. 

    Other than that, I watched a few league matches and then I was done.  I wanted to spend my time playing the game exclusively, if I was involved.

  • BaldWraithSimp's avatar
    BaldWraithSimp
    5 years ago
    @E9ine_AC Do you have a link to the alleged stream video?

    And how did ImperialHal carry the cheats to the LAN tourney? Won by accident? Do devs take a cut?
  • xTomboyRespecte's avatar
    xTomboyRespecte
    5 years ago
    @Daze623 How do you expect them to find proof beyond witnessing it? You want them to somehow gain access to these pros computers? That has some questionable legal ramifications behind it just to provide a random person on the internet with proof of what we can all witness.

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