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@Daze623 wrote:
@hhnbbfggty66Oh look someone got killed by a guy with literally no armor.
You do know that using the totem brings a lot of penalty and risk?
If you get sent back you lose 50% of your health
Enemy team can use your totem
Enemy team can camp your totem
Shadows have 100HP and can have even lower HP if they didn't heal before using the totem
Players in DP can't use healing items nor charge their shields
If DP expires you do not regain your HP back
In conclusion: The shadows doesn't have too much health you just can't aim and the infinite range just allows people to chase targets or use it to reposition.
Nice joke .
What penalty its bring exactly ?
50% of your health is nothing. You actually gain 100 hp, doing free damage, while taking no risk at all, because if you get downed, you will respawn on safe.
Enemy team use your totem - Really ? How is that ? If you go and bring it to place they are, otherwise if enemy player is using your totem, its obviously you don`t know what you are doing ....
Enemy team can camp your totem - just like point 2.
Shadows have 100HP and can have even lower HP if they didn't heal before using the totem - again point 2, its on you.
Players in DP can't use healing items nor charge their shields - what is DP ? If you mean the totem, what you expect, to be able to heal ? Nice joke ...
If DP expires you do not regain your HP back - if i get it right DP - is D
My conclusion.
This is broken and TSM team showed that on the tourny they won.
Even ImperialHal said this is completely broken.
You just need a Wraith into your team and its a game over with the portal.
You place the totem at the portal, you push or third party, you push with absolutely no consequences, if you get down your transported straight back, taking the portal and you push at full armor and 50 hp, which is ridiculous broken.
And the timer is 30 seconds and if can even be altered, depends how late the last person enter it.
Its a joke of ability with zero skill involved into it.
I said it million times before, there is 2 things you show not joke around and make ability based on them - revive stuff and death. If you die you die. If you get downed, you shouldn`t be auto-revive or fast revived with a shield on you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPv_aEQFk2Y
No more words are needed.
Tho i will said Revenant players needed this and they deserve to enjoy this moment, but a nerf will come in the next balance patch for sure.
If that becomes the meta for tourneys it will be absolute chaos and fun to watch but it wont because there will be too much money on the line to allow 3rd parties all the time, which is what playing like that does.
- 6 years ago
@hayhor wrote:
@LordloshBangOk so I watched the first 2 matches. They took 4th and 7th in them. Yes they played very aggressive but they did not win so what does the video prove? Who else was in the tourney?
If that becomes the meta for tourneys it will be absolute chaos and fun to watch but it wont because there will be too much money on the line to allow 3rd parties all the time, which is what playing like that does.
You understand how the tournaments works ? Its not only the placing, but how much kills your team have, you get points for that too.And yeah its a 100% meta and everyone its talking about it.
Its a monster strong combined with Wraith portal, and even without it.And the nerf for the portal, was because of the Revenant. So Wraith player can rant with a case for that.: D
matzesingt, you are doing it on purpose right? You either a low tier player that obviously not understand how to push with the Revenant ult or just trying to defend using the worst possible case, aka if you get down to a people with no armor ...
You are pushing as a shadow to not kill the whole squads, tho its possible, because you 3x have 300 hp, and if they have white armors, they will 450, so if you do the stuffs right you can actually kill them all, with 1-2 send back to the totem. Depends on the situation. But the point is, you are pushing and focusing on 1 to get him down or do as much DMG as possible, they kill you(send you back), you come back with full armor and 50 hp and finish the job, which gives you HUGE advantage.
And the other obvious scenario where you are going to push this and make third party even more of a problem is exactly you use it for third party people. So yeah you can actually kill all of them, because they won`t be 100% full or you will catch them off guard, because you are using Wraith portal.
But again why should i explain obvious things. Its close to the mind or just watch Pro play.
TommiSpageti, its actually going to make people even more passive, because if you decide to fight with no Revenant on your team, you are prone to big third party push with no consequences from a Revenant team ....
So people will be even more carefully and try not to take fights at tournaments. :D
- hayhor6 years agoHero@LordloshBang And you understand that other pro teams can pick revenant as well right? So it does not give anyone an unfair advantage. It somewhat worked for TSM in that because no one else was doing that. I say somewhat because again, placing 7th doesnt give you many placement points and even if they get some extra kills the team that wins will get kills and the placement points.
Other teams had caught up to TSM, as shown in the last few ALGS tournies. They like to try stuff to stay ahead.- 6 years ago
You may won a game with way less kills, than a team that finished 7th. They won just because they play aggressively and get the kills, not the placement. And this is just a highlight, not the whole tournament.
- 6 years ago@LordloshBang i obviously dont understand anything... but you clearly do.
Told you an easy solution to solve that "problem" give a cd on the use of the portal from wraith. Simple fix, i mean you could nerf one of the best if not the best agent or you nerf an agent with a patheticly bad kit besides his ult
Sry im maining him since quite a while on multiple accounts, not cuz he is "broken" but cuz his personality is amazing.And the totem on its own without wraith portal is not even half as efficient as it is with her portal...but once again if the totem is crap why would you pick him at all? exactly there is no reason to do that since the rest of his kit is probably the worst in the game...
"You are pushing as a shadow to not kill the whole squads, tho its possible, because you 3x have 300 hp, and if they have white armors, they will 450, so if you do the stuffs right you can actually kill them all, with 1-2 send back to the totem. Depends on the situation. But the point is, you are pushing and focusing on 1 to get him down or do as much DMG as possible, they kill you(send you back), you come back with full armor and 50 hp and finish the job, which gives you HUGE advantage."
Equally skilled you probably wont down a single person before you all 3 are back to the totem, in the end you are still having the huge disadvantage that you are the pushing persons and not the defenders. Even in Apex Defenders advantage is a thing....mr wannabe high tier player.
"And the other obvious scenario where you are going to push this and make third party even more of a problem is exactly you use it for third party people. So yeah you can actually kill all of them, because they won`t be 100% full or you will catch them off guard, because you are using Wraith portal."
Can do that without rev ult too, just cuz people are to scared to do it doesnt make it less effective. The meta was extremly boring with everyone locking down a spot...dont know how you could enjoy that at all
Your vid once again showed that one of the best teams got only forth and seventh with it, as long as they are not completely demolishing everything with it, you cant really call it broken at all... especially when people just started using it and people are not used to play against it
Before you try to twist anything again, i am not saying the ult is not good... it is very good but its also all that revenant has that has value- 6 years ago
@matzesingtThey should just make it so that you can't use the portal in shadow form.
Also, TSM placed the totem on the portal so when they were sent back, they instantly teleported back to the location where they pushed without manually going in. So maybe that should be taken care of too.
- 6 years ago
@LordloshBang Out of interest, do you play Pro tournaments?
As literally every post I see authored by you references them.
Not having a dig at you, just genuinely curious.
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