Sorry but you are talking nonseses. Bangalore in his whole existent never ever got a buff, and forget about fairly. Only Bloodhound got buffs, yet he is still useless at top or competitive level and got zero pick rate in there. Same with Bangalore.
No changes to this legends can make them a must or even a choice for competitive level.
As far as movement, even without the ability, this is the best game, that offer such a good movement. No other game comes close to this one.
And players will always move from one game to another, this is the life after all. Just like people move from one car to another and so on.
A lot of people moved to Warzone, simply because Apex was too hard for them. Even Shroud said this. In Apex you actually need real skills in all areas, unlike Warzone.
As i said the game was completely unbalance in its first seasons. And even top Wraith and Pathy streamers admitted this and that they needed a nerf.
We have different view of the game, so we can`t come to agreement. Its not because who is right or wrong.
Tho as i said, the game was never in such a good shape, in terms of balance, which speaks for Respawn work and that they are doing the right stuff with not just buffing and totally mess up the game.
@LordloshBang What part is nonsense? Bangalore got a buff in S3 if memory serves me right.. Double ult damage from 20 to 40 i think it was but you can go search the exact details.
In the case of some legends they need complete reworks not buffs for competitive play but they could ease the situation as things are and just off the top of my head both Titanfall and Dirty Bomb have far better movement than Apex.
Yes people move away from games and change but some are standout issue or things they have removed that people enjoyed. Those people would have stayed if things were different or prioritised differently. Nerfing favourite legends, sound issues, game stability not addressed and other things over time accumulate and push people away.
@Sir_Named Reducing cd or increasing AoE (not sure if that was part of a previous buff or not) is one way and as she's a soldier, reduced recoil could be part of her passive. Not so great for comp scene but easier for new players to get the hang of the game.
Edit: @rloaz34 Anything that hinders you or your team less can be considered a good buff. Just look at Caustics recently for example.
@apostolateofDOOM wrote:@LordloshBang What part is nonsense? Bangalore got a buff in S3 if memory serves me right.. Double ult damage from 20 to 40 i think it was but you can go search the exact details.
In the case of some legends they need complete reworks not buffs for competitive play but they could ease the situation as things are and just off the top of my head both Titanfall and Dirty Bomb have far better movement than Apex.
Yes people move away from games and change but some are standout issue or things they have removed that people enjoyed. Those people would have stayed if things were different or prioritised differently. Nerfing favourite legends, sound issues, game stability not addressed and other things over time accumulate and push people away.
@Sir_Named Reducing cd or increasing AoE (not sure if that was part of a previous buff or not) is one way and as she's a soldier, reduced recoil could be part of her passive. Not so great for comp scene but easier for new players to get the hang of the game.
Edit: @rloaz34 Anything that hinders you or your team less can be considered a good buff. Just look at Caustics recently for example.
Season 3 was long ago, not recently ago, but okay.
Bangalore ult is crap, from 20 to 40 damage, means nothing. Ain`t helping her even one a bit.
Reworking completely so much legends, its not an easy thing and you should do a lot of work to do so.
But i won`t argue more about that.
I just don`t agree with your point and i think totally different. Just like you don`t agree with my point.
For me Legends in Season 1-2-3 was completely broken. Also no matter for what game we are talking about, MK, POE, Diablo, AL or whatever, you don`t achieve good balance with just straight up buffs for the weaker characters. You are going to end up with a mess.
@LordloshBang We're only mid S5 so not last season but the one before, which wasn't that long ago considering we're still only in the first half of the second year. So when you say to someone ''Sorry but you are talking nonseses. Bangalore in his whole existent never ever got a buff'' it is in fact you who is talking nonsense.
The fact that the damage was doubled made it a huge buff and anything with an increase of 100% is pretty significant. She might not be picked for scrims or tournaments but she's viable in higher tier lobbies as ShivFPS for example plays her often in master rank.
Lifeline was ok and apart from the combat medic role being taken away from her by other legends that have nothing to do with being a medic ie Gibbys dome buff and Mirages rez ect.. she was fine where she was both in pickrate and W/L ratio but they made an unnecessary rework on an ability i have NEVER heard anyone complain about especially when others should have had the attention to ''change the meta''.
If it takes so much work and resources to do then why do you think that is?
Every game you mentioned isn't the same genre or even a shooter for that matter. If something is OP then nerf it and equally if something is underwhelming then give it a buff but changing things around for the sake of it and taking that ''fun factor'' out the game isn't a good thing. It will try to accomplish something that is already out there and better.
