TBH, its time for Apex Legends 2

@Airish85 Came here to say the same. People in charge of making and selling games should really play games themselves and have a true passion for them.

Just look at Steamcharts. And like you said, a two in the title doesn't mean anything in itself, it just depends if its a well made game that matters.

Dota 2 to add to the list.

@HappyHourSumwur I agree. With the last 3 seasons being so bad, I think it may be time to start over. I think they should at least sunset the pc version (at least temporarily) and just keep console for now, since the same problems are on console, but not to the extent they are on pc. Then, redesign the game and do a special release on pc announcing all of the problems are now fixed and do a promotion where former players coming back get rare rewards. (Gacha jrpgs do this all the time) Then, release the same version on console.

I know they can do it because I played seasons 16 to 19, and I know this can be the best game in the world whenever they want it to be. The new anti cheat software, fixing the hit reg issues, better servers, etc would go a long way in bringing the old player base back, maybe even tripling it.

@XNocturnalGamer

I know what you're saying...

But Wilson isn't saying it feels better to keep the game as is. He's saying it feels more profitable. And that's true enough, especially from the mouth of a man whose purpose is to make money. But what the game needs is definitely not updated legends, weapons, gameplay even. It needs an engine that can handle the audio and servers that can handle the game. And an anti cheat that can handle the player base. I won't even mention the sbmm because no one has ever got that right so it seems disingenuous to expect it now from Respawn.

@HappyHourSumwur Even though OW has a sequel, I honestly doubt EA will. They will squeeze as much money as possible out of this game & when it's dead they will move on to another shooter. Maybe if pros beg or gripe enough they might make a sequel but it's not likely.

@WhoopFighter Aside from paying people to police the game, what are all the other things game companies can do to combat cheaters? Is there an anti cheat out there that works?

@HappyHourSumwur People policing the games is a losing battle from the get go.

I just keep hearing the buzz word of AI anti-cheat, and I think it's generally over valued. So far It's unproven, and AI isn't cheap. It takes a ton of energy to use it. Who knows though, maybe it will be the saving thing for FPS games.

There's simple things like limiting what can be disguised as cheats. Like scanning, the drone, auto-ping with Bang. All those things can make cheaters look more legit. So game design is a HUGE part of it that frankly gets over looked and taken for granted. I'm not saying those things need to removed, but merely making a point. Another example would be the akimbo weapons, or high recoil weapons, that are "hard" to use, but with big rewards. Guess who gravitates towards those weapons? Good players, sure, but cheaters can take advantage of a poorly balanced weapon even more so.

You really believe a company with the funds that EA has can't figure out how to make a better anti-cheat? Again, it's about investment versus return. They're trying to make money above all. Respawn probably has some passion left, but EA, forget it. The CEO doesn't understand the basics of gaming.

Another way of dealing with cheats is building up a trust system. The higher the account, the longer it's been around, the less you have to investigate those players. Once you purge cheaters from the top, and have a trust system, you spend resources catching people before they can even make it to ranked.

Nothing is easy or cheap, but they can absolutely do something about it. It really comes down to a money thing. Is it worth the investment to them? So far, they've calculated not so much.