The official Matchmaking blog post

"Any Free to Play Online game that does not consider the below average casual player will eventually die to population issues."

Yet here you are. 

Honestly, you sound mad for not being good at pvp and expecting the games to bend to your will. Be honest with yourself here.

the Day 1 No Lifers

What's your point? You expect to be good at something you spend time on, right? YOU, yes you. Imagine you never got better at your art while spending loads of time on it? That is essentially what you are saying should happen. You wanna walk in and be good, day 1. Imagine someone in the gym for 2 hours per day and his counterpart spending 30 mins and the rest at McDonalds and demanding to look the same/pulling the same amount of dates/compliments. It's absurd to expect that.

The average life expectancy of a human is 20 000 odd days.

The average expectancy to reach pro level in anything is around 10 000 hours for the average human.

1 Hour per day for 10k days means half your life to reach pro level.

Some reach that level a lot sooner, and some don't, should they be punished so you can feel good about yourself? Or should everyone just show up and be "adequate"?

The Try-Hards

I understand the frustration, but what is the point? If you don't try-hard you will stay exactly where you are. At least they are trying to learn gun fights and those who don't and just drop mindlessly - I agree with you. Sorry, but t is to be expected without a team.

The Regular Casual

In any shooter you should know what you are sighing up for. There is no such thing as a "relaxed experience" pvp game. Sweat exists on every level, just the amount that differs. 

So what is it that you actually want? You want an easy time? Put in time. 

SBMM will prob ruin it for you anyway, but the point is it seems you want an easy pvp experience - not gonna happen in any game, in any lifetime, in any way without YOU putting in some work. People want to win just as bad as you so yeah...not an option..

The issue with games these days is that they try to include everyone - even people who never actually like/play pvp shooters. So a population of 2mil isn't enough anymore. instead 5mil is the minimum - just so they can include more players and make more $. You really think this is good for the players? Bring in SBMM to compensate those players and you have a game/mode that is a former shell of itself. It's a joke really. You want basketball players to compensate for cricket players all of a sudden joining their team? NO, just no to all of it. Clown shoes industry atm.

If you want a pve game, let it go and look elsewhere. Apex is not that and it is not Titanfall even if it tried. Not ever gonna happen.

"It offers the best protection against matchmaking exploits with new players and smurfs..."

Wow, that's some end-game BS.
But if it was true, imagine a game without it.

Just replying here again to say that the matchmaking is still complete garbage.

I actually tested this new revolutionary match making system as a solo q. Purposefully didnt get a single kill for two days. Almost 40-50 matches of BR both ranked and pubs. Did some dmg in the fights but stopped shooting (got assist by fault not sure if it counts). Obviously no wins with few accidental top5 (whole lobby landed in one place with 7 teams alive after first ring. Our jumpmaster landed elsewhere so we just went around looting). According to the matchmaking post I shouldve noticed a change after 5-10 matches but I didnt.
Level varied from medium sweat to uber sweat.

There is no such thing as SBMM or its being exploited like there is no tomorrow. Or perhaps the EA SBMM algorithm has evaluated me as a masochist that will keep playing as long as the situation stands. 

@Airish85As cited in several of my matchmaking tests over the years, the algorithm treats different account’s differently.

Accounts with certain “data” are flagged. So accounts flagged as “high” don’t get the same forgiveness that other accounts do. I’ve lost 100 (literally 100) games with under 100 damage and early elimination and still had lobbies comprised of mostly diamond players— but this is on my main account where I have hit Masters and what not.

On my other accounts that I intentionally have poor performances on, it only takes between 6-11 games for a lobby to reduce in difficulty (after a win).

Accounts are 100% treated differently. Literally all of my data tests support this.

So your results suggest the game sees you as someone who doesn’t deserve the “lower bucket forgiveness”. And also, some of those unintentional top 5 placements absolutely told the algorithm you were “doing well”, so it’s likely they kept you in a top bucket.

But please don’t think that there isn’t any “skill-based” dimension to the matchmaking. There is. It’s not perfect by many standards but it’s still 1000% working to protect under-average players by keeping high MMR players playing each other the majority of the time (top bucket lobbies).

Woah i could not believe thats wat they eating recently no wonder.... hurt is it? oops!

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Fine so there is SBMM but then there is so much exploiting going on because. 

To give you perspective I have 1800hrs in Apex. Scout record 88, Smoke 3400 and Bow 3950. I usually stop playing ranked when I reach silver because I feel that just enough for me and I play it only if certain maps are in rotation for change of the pubs maps. I have all time KD of 0.5. First part of this season I had like 0.7 but after some time I am now at around 0.46. I think this decline is due to most players on my under-average level play for sometime in the beginning of every season hoping for improvements and then quit after getting stomped too many times.  So I know my place and level. 

I noticed that the MM tried at some point setting me up with one or two very high level players which is just too obvious and lazy. Being carried by some exploiting rando as the solution in matchmaking is just depressing. 

Which bucket would you now place me in?