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I too quit the game around Season 3 because of it, missed the majority of the battlepass and also never played the Winter Express event etc. I missed a lot of the game because of it, and was happy enough playing Warzone and other games which favoured technical ability more over bullshi. Unfortunately I play again now, not because of my own enjoyment, but because my partner prefers the characters and fun nature of the game as opposed to the more brutal and pretty manly Warzone in comparison etc. So yeah, I don't even play on my own much for fun any more - all because of cheaters - which is really sad.
You guys are all idiots.
Get with the program. Respawn built their own set of cheats into the game! If you cant see them, you are slow of mind.
If you want to know more, just google computer science topics on computing. Theory states that you cannot stop cheaters, unless you have control over the client's hardware and performing a secure boot with a secure OS (a special OS that does not allow a process to read another process' memory) with a secured game client. Otherwise wallhacks cannot be stopped. It is simply not possible. Respawn knows that so they have their own set of cheats to counter the cheaters.
I have no idea how they decide who floats to the top, but for example my game client does not allow me to aim at certain players. It simply ignores mouse input. Or sometimes the client kicks your aim away from the target. I have installed a win32 mouse coord tracker and verified. The game client moves your aim around 100% fact. But it is not just that. Players moonwalking while dodging, nohitreg, bullets simply not coming out of the barrel or the client rendering your target where they are not. Players vibrating when you shoot them. Bullets coming out of the barrel at 45 degree angles The list is endless how they can completely control the outcome of any encounter.
And they are absolutely 100% fixing the outcomes of battle as we speak. Any seasoned FPS player can see it.
- 6 years ago
No matter how hard some people try to defend it but this game is invested with cheaters all over the place...
There are allrdy so many blatant ones that actually are able to play more than a single match(thoose persons should allrdy get filtered by an autobansystem just cuz of their performance)
Lets not even talk about all thoose people that actually try to hide it and maybe just have a little aimassist and maybe a radar hack...
The Cheaterproblem harms the game massively, i got alot of friends that would like to play it but they dont touch it cuz of the cheaterreputation
When i see people with the movement of a bot and the tracking close to aceu then i am simply not buying it that they are legit honestly...even when yes there are ofc alot of people that are close to aceu tracking but still pls
- 6 years ago@matzesingt proof it. If the game is infested with obvious cheaters you should be able to get a session of a hour filled with them.
Its not that hard. - 6 years ago
(Rolls eyes a full 360 degrees)
The forum's biggest troll is back.
DaAce, I'm just going to acknowledge you this once, to reiterate that it's not our job, or remotely in our interests, to try and prove to ignorant, narcissistic people like you that cheating exists. I'm not going to record my gameplay for you, to try and sway your biased mind into reality. I don't care what you think, nor do I really care what others here think.
I know cheating exists.
I know it's prevalent.
I know it happens to some players far more than it'll ever happen to others, due to SBMM.
What I, and many other players want, is not to convince YOU, or entertain YOU, or prove things to YOU. We don't care about you.
What we want, is to draw attention to the problem, using the only available channels we actually have, so that the people in charge who also know factually that it's a problem, can finally do something about it 🙂
So, again, clearer this time: THIS DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU. So stop making it about you, every time. Instead, get a life, and stop antagonising people on forums as your only method of enjoyment.
- 6 years ago@DaAceXD There are tons of clips on youtube where people did exactly that, so there is no need for me to do that
- 6 years ago@matzesingt Can't find a single video that shows a lot of matches in a row facing a cheater every match.
only that cheaters exist.
I did find video's however that say the PC cheater problem is not as big as people claim it to be. but as you can imagine they can't upload hours and hours of gameply in that video to proof it so its kinda on the same level as you guys saying CHEATER EVERY GAME. - 6 years ago
@DaAceXDOk man you are living in denial or you are trolling it can only be one of theese two...
In one of the latest Forumtreads about cheating someone posted like 5-6 youtube links were streamers are watching hackers play in their games... and thoose were extreme obvious cases where the people were speedhacking rageaimbotting/walling..
Explain to me how they even made it to dia-apex while using thoose settings? they should get automaticly banned by a system that just bans based on performance, but they are not they hack this blatantly that its disgusting...And what ever you try to say, hacking is getting kinda tolerated in this game, same as it is with csgo.
Its not about "beating" hackers and cheats, no company will ever do that but you can make it hard for them...Why you only need lvl what 10? to go for ranked? why it isnt atleast 100? this would easily shut down alot of the new accounts that were just created for hacking.
In general man i dont know what you know about cheating but it looks like you have not much of a clue...
You think every hacker has to be a dia+ player? i mean if i give a silver some hacks he will mostlikely end up at plat if he uses legit settings, but since he is still bad does it mean he doesnt hack? there will be so many players that are actually silver and co usually ending up in something like low plat with hack that you would not even notice that they hack but they still do, every other plat player will also mostlikely still demolish them but they are still hacking...
Ive been arround quite some years in multiple forums and communitys where hacks get sold and used and believe it or not but most of thoose hackers dont even make it to dia 😉Btw i still have some csgo hacks with legit settings, add me on steam and you can watch me play a match on GE and you will not notice a thing since that hack flys arround on my pc since like 6 years with a clean steam account
- 6 years ago
I mean just a novel thought.
But y'all could just accept you ain't gonna agree on the matter rather than having some pointless circular debate over two different topics that's gonna carry on for days lol.
- 6 years ago@MandatoryIDtag Not gonna happen. xD
- 6 years ago
@apostolateofDOOM Nope, which is funny because to a certain degree both sides of this argument are actually correct.
Cheating is a serious issue, and certainly common enough to be considered a real concern.
People do use cheaters as a convenient excuse when they're outplayed by skill and nothing more, it's historically happened on literally EVERY multiplayer game since online gaming was introduced.
Arguing any facts or statistics one way or the other is absolutely pointless as the entire debate is a polluted mess of uncertainties lol.
But hey, what do I know? 😛
- 6 years ago@MandatoryIDtag You are absolutelty correct if someone lives in denial you have to just accept it ^^
Still trying to wake some people up and making sure this hacking issue stays in everyones mind is enough for me to acomplish here - 6 years ago@MandatoryIDtag But im enjoying myself a lot 😛 I knew nothing was going to typ was gonna change their mind. And the video of a guy looting a deadbox gave me the best laugh i had in a while.
- 6 years ago@matzesingt You are in denial is not a argument.
- 6 years ago@DaAceXD if this is all you took from my post then i feel honestly sorry for you
- 6 years ago
@djentyman wrote:
@DaAceXDjust look on youtube "apex legends cheaters season 5" how many requests it has. it proves that apex is full of cheaters.Did just that, The first 2 video's are about people teaming and i stopped. WIch is agains the rules but its a cheat.
ALso i see like maybe 25 video's and they not only S5 video's and its about teaming a lot. AND sometimes not cheating at all. just a guy owning.
Its true there is a video of the occasional cheater when i search that.Title Monthly players As of
Fortnite Battle Royale 78.3 million August 2018 Apex Legends 75.1 million May 2020 The Sims Social 66 million October 2011 Call of Duty: Warzone 50 million April 2020 Apex legends has 75.1 million monthly players apperenly.
EVEN if 10% of that is true. 7.5 million players 25 cheater video's is nothing.
Even 1% 750K 25 video's that show when i typ your '' apex legends cheaters season 5'' is nothing.
Try typing ''insane plays apex legends'' LOADS of video's of people owning in this game.
- 6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag wrote:@apostolateofDOOM Nope, which is funny because to a certain degree both sides of this argument are actually correct.
Cheating is a serious issue, and certainly common enough to be considered a real concern.
People do use cheaters as a convenient excuse when they're outplayed by skill and nothing more, it's historically happened on literally EVERY multiplayer game since online gaming was introduced.
Arguing any facts or statistics one way or the other is absolutely pointless as the entire debate is a polluted mess of uncertainties lol.
But hey, what do I know? 😛
Oke i want to break this one down.
Since this is by far the best reply in my topic :<I know im taunting hard, so its not a complaint!
I don't think i have said that cheating is not something the devs should be concerned about.
IF i did i take that back instantly. There is nothing wrong with people working on anti cheat software! i support that 100%!
But i do think they are doing a AMAZING job for how many cheaters i see in a free to play triple A game and they should keep it up!
''People do use cheaters as a convenient excuse when they're outplayed by skill and nothing more, it's historically happened on literally EVERY multiplayer game since online gaming was introduced.''
Yes and i don't realy care about that either. exept when a newer person comes on the forum questioning why and how are people killing him so fast.
And reads: CHEATS CHEATERS EVERYWHERE CHEATER PROBLEM CHEATER CHEATERS EVERYWHERE.
Apex community just lost another player.
I have seen one or two posts of a player asking what he can do better because he dies fast or misses a lot of shots ( I don't remember realy. ).
And a lot of replies where: YOU CAN't DO * AGAINST CHEATERS BRO PLAY OTHER GAME APEX TRASH.And i believe that is a bigger issue at the moment on this forum on reddit and even a bit of youtube and twitter etc. Then the actual cheater problem is at the moment.
So i made a simple request:
if cheaters are so common. Make a gameplay video of 1 hour that you are playing the game.
And show me you are dying to cheaters over and over and over.They only have to record it! i don't even want to see a edit because that could make it all false!
This actualy requires less time and effort then debating me on the forums!
AND i have to say i actualy expected a video doing just that by now!
There must be 1 guy ''un''lucky enough to get 1 hour of unedited footage to attempt to shut me up.
But i have seen 1 video of a dude looting a deadbox. Thats it.
''Nope, which is funny because to a certain degree both sides of this argument are actually correct.''
I disagree with them being correct when they are stating 50% of the players use cheats and scripts and most streamers cheat to perform the way they do.
Not only is that a weak argument, Its also a slap in the face of all the players that practised thousands of hours to achieve their level of game awareness and skills.
And not much different then accusing a great athlete for using performance drugs. They are innocent untill proven otherwise.
And saying i can't run that fast so he should not be able to as well is just dumb. Its the same thing here only with positioning and aim.
So im actualy rather happy with a BIIIG topic on the forums with a big fire on it stating the cheater problem is not nearly as big as your would think when you are on these forums.
And if you practise enough and get better then the average player, The game will only become more and more fun!
So yes this is 80% me just bashing on people because i like doing that.
But its 20% me loving this game and having great respect for people that practise hard and a lot to achieve a level where they can wow me and hype me to get better at this game.
So if i see anyone bashing amazing players for doing their thing. They will have to deal with the above described 100% of me or go whine somewhere else.
And the people that feel like they have to start insulting get another 100% troll to deal with :D:D
- 6 years ago
@DaAceXD here boi let me tell you something
we cheater finder doesnt find cheating by something like = ohh he lazered me 3-2 sec he is cheater, or he knowing me hiding, he must be cheating
we finding how people cheating by
1. watching him several minutes
2. watching his aim pattern everytime he clashing (not just 1 kill and conclude hes cheating)
3. watching how he react on several situation
example: how do you know someone wallhacking? when clashing someone inside building he doesnt aim to window but to the wall (several times), we watch something that beyond psychological response of normal player, and after find few proof we conclude that someone is cheating
if you say play 10 match and record 5 match we find cheater then its considered a lot cheating oh boi you dont know how cheating finding works
i find my own team cheating more than i find ppl that killed me is cheating
by far, my prediction cheating in this game is arround 5-10% AND THATS A LOT
- 6 years ago@DaAceXD You probably also believe that every pro bodybuilder is clean and never took roids 😉
- 6 years ago@MandatoryIDtag That's why it's going to keep going because Ace is having a blast trolling them in a grey area. On and on we go!
Don't feed the trolls guys. :P - 6 years ago@NACHT_SlEGER I agree that is the only way to detect a wallhacker but when someone is aiming at a wall does not make him a wallhacker.
And how do you know hes aiming at a person trough a wall when you cant see trough it?
The only way to get good proof is if you have wallhack yourself so you see him aiming at people. Or listening on their discort or something.
I often change my aim to a real weird place to listen to enemys from my sides. Because sound from left and right is way more accurate then front and back.
Forget the lack of footsteps that happens to often sadly. But with a good headset you can hear where people are surprisingly well. - 6 years ago@apostolateofDOOM he was not trolling in the beginning 😉 now he pretends he does
- 6 years ago@apostolateofDOOM And the ones im discussing with are to proud to accept there are a lot of people better then they are.
50% of the people are below average.
But a good guess would be that only 5% of the people know they are below average.
And i believe A lot of people in this topic belongs to the 45%. Blaming it on cheaters.
Because there is no way they are below average right? 😅 - 6 years ago
@matzesingtSelective reading
im sure you can do better then this.
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