Hi all! It's weapon balance time! Last week we talked about the G7 and Alternator, check it here! This week we're firing from the hip, with the Eva 8 Auto, and the Havoc Rifle. Do you hold onto the Eva for the whole match, or do you just use it to chase unlucky hot droppers off your lawn? Did the Shotgun ammo nerf hurt the gun badly for you? Is getting that satisfying full figure of 8 hitmarker work taking the dive in, or will you wear enemies down from a little further away? Is the Havoc worth keeping even if you don't get a hop-up? I personally prefer the turbocharger, or are you more of a selectfire connoisseur? Let us know what you think below!

Woah finally I can get out my hate for the Eva 8. Lets begin. Eva 8 for all the glory and rounds it can hold is amazing. However, with the changes to only be able to stack 16 shells, it kinda makes the gun useless further into the game. As 2 clips and you're already out of ammo or have to carry 4 stacks or more which takes up a lot of space for other items or ammo. Not a good gun to really use unless you plan to swap out later. I wish they would change the ammo stacks to at least 20-24 to make a shotgun worth carrying and spraying. Havoc to me is in an all around good spot. Early game the gun is amazing at putting down enemies who pick up a gun with no attachments. If you can control that recoil even a little, it becomes something deadly and not something an enemy wants to hitting them for too long. The two hop ups it uses are amazing given you pick up a extended mag or some sort and a scope you're comfortable using. My overall favorite thing to do with it is carry both hop ups and a basic x1 scope so i can go from sniper to AR in an instant. There is no bullet drop that I can see when in single fire so it's an amazing feeling when you hit someone across the map all by lining up your cross hairs perfectly. If I was to suggest any change to the Havoc, it would just be to extend the magazines a bit more. It runs out fast with a turbocharger and without the charger, you're missing half those shots trying to build up the speed for the havoc.

In my eyes it makes no difference whether it was Eva 8 or Peacekeeper and Havoc/or Turbocharger I would say I very rarely use them beyond early game. Either of the shotguns for me are too hit and miss. Be it my own aim or hit registration the risk is too much. You can miss once maybe twice with a peacekeeper but anymore and you're dead and Eva 8 just seems to do no damage despite all of the numbers. Not requesting a buff, it's just my experience. As for Havoc, similar to the above I rarely hold it for long for different reasons. Both the devotion and Havoc have been nerfed to a point they rely too much on decent attachments let alone having enough ammo. I see plenty of extended energy mags but rarely a decent one, and if I do I've already dropped the gun. As for ammo unless youve a decent backpack early enough, to carry plenty of ammo, there is never enough as you go around because noone else carries it! Now a single fire Havoc is a different kettle of fish. I've not used it much tbf and the delay is annoying but something to reduce its effectiveness is needed otherwise it would be too powerful. The damage is decent and although it is inferior to say a longbow the fact you can switch it back to full auto for CQC is great. I just think energy weapons need some more love to increase their usage to make them worthwhile.

@EA_DavidTHE HAVOCThe Havoc is a rarely used weapon on the PS4.Most people pass it over until they have a turbocharger.And by the time they find a turbocharger they will have a fully modded R301, Alternator, or Flatline.Pro'sThe Havoc deals high damage, at 18 damage.Has a rather large magazine capacity for an assault rifle.Con'sThe Havoc has terrible hipfire.The Havoc has high recoil.The Havoc has low firerate at 550 RPM.A delayed firerate.Requires turbocharger or cover priming to be useful.Turbocharger is a golden attachment. - Hard to find.Havoc is not a good weapon if you are ambushed.Havoc is not a good weapon for fast paced unpredictable combat.TurbochargerThe Turbocharger should give the Havok better close range.The Turbocharger should give the Havok a tighter hipfire.Havoc Select-FireThe Select fire should give the Havoc long range.The charged beam is a good idea.The problem, is the trigger charge up.The Havoc should charge while ADS and stay charged until the fire button is pressed.ConclusionThe Havok is a strong, full-auto, medium range weapon.The Havok has some close range capability with the Turbocharger, and some long range capability with Select-fire.Without a hop-up the Havok is purely medium range.The turbocharger should be more common.**Review is Finished**

@EA_DavidEva-8 : As others have said - this thing took more of a hit with the change to shotgun ammo than the Peacekeeper, and of the two guns it's the Peacekeeper that needed rebalancing so it's a shame. I still think the gun is viable as a gun, but it's not worth what you have to give up to carry ammo for it anymore. Until this thread I hadn't thought about it much, but having thought about it - I've not used the Eva8 other than straight off the drop since the ammo changes.Havoc : I think this gun shreds if you can use it, and if you can't - it's hipfire or bust and change it out ASAP. With a turbocharger I think it's slightly OP but I have absolutely no idea how to balance it. I think the additional buff to its capacity that came in with purple mags wasn't needed at all.

@EA_David EV8 sucks bad with out attachments , Havoc = rubber bullets

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hhnbbfggty66
7 years ago
EVA 8
The Eva-8 is a full auto shotgun.
The Eva-8 is a very basic weapon.
The Eva-8 full auto is more harmful than helpful.
You can easily overspam the eva-8 full auto and be in for a long reload in a close range engagement.
This reload can easily get you killed.
The eva 8 has no downfall no con and no pros.
It is a basic full auto shotgun.
I have had a favorable experience with the Eva-8 in ranked.
I have been able to down more people with the Eva-8 in quick skirmishes than the peacekeeper.
The Eva-8 is more consistent than the peacekeeper and is able to deal more damage over time.
The Eva-8 is very powerful in close range combat, due to the fact many people underestimate it.
Many peple are willing to go heads-up against a Eva-8 only to meet their demise.
The Eva-8 is a great close range shotgun.
Great against strafe dancing foes.
Better than peacekeeper in ranked queue because everyone is a strafe dance expert in ranked queue.
In ranked everyone will strafe dance your peacekeeper shots. While the Eva-8 will allow you to hit strafe dancing foes.
The Eva-8 is kinda boring, it needs something special. Maybe richochet rounds.
^^Terrible review.
Wingmannedbro
7 years ago
Eva still best shotgun, Havoc still best energy gun. What more is there to say?
I think the Shotgun ammo stack could be upped to 24, with only 16 so few people are using shotguns you're unlikely to be able to restock on shotty ammo from any deathboxes.
I personally have not seen a single shotgun in a late game deathbox.
MandatoryIDtag
7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro agreed...there really wasn't any benefit to reducing shotgun stacks in my personal opinion. It just made what is already a relatively unpopular weapon class even less so.
I do see the odd peacekeeper at endgame...but when i do they're usually fully stacked with attachments.
Never see an Eva-8 past mid game.
SquishyVader
7 years ago
The Havoc has one of the worst gun sights! For M&K users on console and PC can just point, but when you have to aim it is awful!
enite
7 years ago
@EA_David
I play Xbox.
The Eva-8 is one of my favorite weapons in the game, but it has a few issues right now. Ironically, the havoc shares one of the issues, but I will get to the Havoc in a few.

The biggest issue with the Eva-8 IMO is hit detection. I can't believe I am saying this, but with the exception of the Mozambique, I believe the shotguns have the worst hit detection in the game.
This is a big problem because you generally need every shot to land correctly in order to win with a shot gun, especially late game against upgraded automatic weapons. This is one of the reasons the Eva-8 is hard to bring to late game situations. Sometimes terrible hit registration along with probably the longest reload time in the game is too much to make the weapon an option.

The 2nd issue also applies to the Havoc as well. The Havoc is in almost perfect condition as far as balancing goes. It has probably the largest learning curve, but it is also one of if not the most powerful gun in the game outside of sniper rifles.
The biggest issue with the Havoc late game is it is too hard to find ammo. This is also a big issue with the Shotguns. It is just too hard to find ammo if you don't already have it,.

Solutions: The shotgun ammo nerf definitely hurt. As many have said, 64 was probably alot, but the shotgun should be able to carry at least 24 rounds. And I would love a bigger mag for the Eva-8. 2 more shots would go a long way. A faster reload would help alot too, but I would probably do either or, not both together as that could make it too powerful.

A simple solution for the Havoc would be to allow you to hold more energy in your inventory. Or maybe you could have the option to convert light and/or heavy to energy. For example, you could irreversibly convert 40 light or heavy to 20 energy.

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