So tonight I witness both of myself and teammates just getting downed instantly.Enemy absorbed 6.5 bursts of Prowler with white shields.Downs each teammate immediately. (typical auto gun)This stuff is so bizarre. There's a clear disparity at play. But I have no idea what cheat these people could be using.

@1ronKeysNot sure if it's intentional or not, but far too often, getting in a fight with the kill leader in a Pub match, they shoot me before they're on my screen, or won't take the appropriate damage. So "good" players in this game seem to have the better end of hit reg for whatever reason.With how sophisticated cheats have gotten, I wouldn't doubt that there's ways of manipulating the game in your favor and make it look like lag. I just saw a video on COD cheats, and it had a whole array of different cheats you could use, including several options for "lag". You could make yourself look like you're lagging a bit, become jittery looking.There's some odd behavior concerning lag when going through doors. Hold 'w' while opening a door, and you'll get a prediction error.Apex isn't really a competitive shooter, just passed off as one. It's a great game, and I'm personally over being super competitive, but 20 tick servers just doesn't cut it for tight gameplay. It's a casual game for the most part, and I think they should lean into that even further. Give players more to do then just murder each other, which I've read they might be doing? Not sure how creditable that source was, but that would be interesting.TLDR; Cheats are wild these days. If you can imagine it, it probably can, or has already been made. Don't let others try to convince you otherwise. Cheating is a HUGE issue in shooters these days. Denying it doesn't make it go away.

@1ronKeysmight not be a cheat at all, but the server simply overloaded sending out the combined hits in "one" packet.The opponent might have hit you before you even get a notice bcs the server simply forgot or dropped those packets, so the info arrives at your pc all at once. this will result in you getting the impression that you got mowed down in a speed thats is physically impossible to replicate with that type of weapon.You can experience this since the start of Apex and the issue is imho likely being found in the netcode combined with the server load/bandwidth.This would also explain a lot of sound effects missing like opponents footsteps, devo/havoc spinning up ect. , that info simply just didnt get relayed to you in time.

what kind of cheats I’ve got tons of video, but you can’t post them here because they don’t like you to out the cheaters they have a system that you submit the video or screenshot and then they deleted and do nothing about it

@BallisticMVP ill bet the TTK was lower as the actual firing rate of a Flatline.Quite a common "what the heck" issue

@BallisticMVP yea, the plain death card screenshot doesnt tell about anything regarding the situation.Was just a educated guess on my end, since that is a common thing i notice at times

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r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@VersusGravity i have the strong suspicion that there are quite some severe bug in the server code. It happens quite often , that if im in a crouched position sitting still , enemies literally walking over me without taking notice as if im not rendered on their screens at all.
But also vice versa , went into a room : Nobody there ... Enemy appears out of thin air in my back. Result : got oneclipped ...
BallisticMVP
2 years ago
@lnxtvWhat’s wrong ?aside of you not hitting your shots ofc
r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BallisticMVP ill bet the TTK was lower as the actual firing rate of a Flatline.
Quite a common "what the heck" issue
BallisticMVP
2 years ago
@r1ggedgame Yea without video evidence it’s just a baseless claim
r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@BallisticMVP yea, the plain death card screenshot doesnt tell about anything regarding the situation.
Was just a educated guess on my end, since that is a common thing i notice at times
VersusGravity
Rising Scout
2 years ago
@r1ggedgame wrote:
@VersusGravityi have the strong suspicion that there are quite some severe bug in the server code. It happens quite often , that if im in a crouched position sitting still , enemies literally walking over me without taking notice as if im not rendered on their screens at all.
But also vice versa , went into a room : Nobody there ... Enemy appears out of thin air in my back. Result : got oneclipped ...
I think that you're right with the bugs. Earlier today I had a match and caught this lifeline totally off guard, hit her for 100 damage before she reacted. She then turns to me, while I'm still shooting, and after I just hit her for 100+ dmg, she then proceeds to almost win that 1v1 against me. I had a Red Evo too. It makes no sense whatsoever. That should have been the easiest kill.
It happens so often, that I'm sure it's some sort of networking thing. Even then, it doesn't make sense. The server sees that I'm hitting my opponent, updates and gives me feedback, and then the opponent acts like nothing happened. Unless it's just updating my side way before relaying that data back to them and the server.
No matter how you try to spin it, 20 ticks, 50ms per update just isn't enough for an FPS game. Especially when it has to go back and forth to check to make sure things are happening correctly, then feeding that back to players.
lnxtv
2 years ago
@BallisticMVP you are another trust in "is pro you are n**b" 🙂 195 damage is clear no recoil cheat or macro
lnxtv
2 years ago
For @BallisticMVP this is only screenshot, lvl 13 win round with 14 kills, is normal is a pro....ah lasered me with 2 shots but i not have a video so I assume he's a professional.
VersusGravity
Rising Scout
2 years ago
@lnxtv wrote:
When you think EAC work very fine..
I didn't realize this until you pointed it out, but all of those shots landed together, without missing. Otherwise, the lines would be broken up?
That picture says a lot.