Where are the Duos, Solos, and Squad modes!?
Where the hell are the Solo, Duo, and Squad modes? How hard is it to add these modes already!?
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@Silz616 wrote:
@adidasPowah wrote:
the point is nobody will force you to play solos all brs have solos/duos/squads and you can chooseThis game is heavily built around a team, and team synergy. If you want solo's what is wrong with the other BR games that offer it? Why are people so hung up on making Apex like the other games?
Different playlists will split the player base. That is a fact.
The game would need some reworking to make solos viable. I would rather Respawn work on the core game and add content and fix issues than a new game mode which could bring it's own issues and bugs.
Couldn't agree more with this. The game, for me at least, is designed for team play. I don't want that to change, it's what keeps it fun and fresh for me.
@ajharris21 wrote:
@Silz616 wrote:
@adidasPowah wrote:
the point is nobody will force you to play solos all brs have solos/duos/squads and you can chooseThis game is heavily built around a team, and team synergy. If you want solo's what is wrong with the other BR games that offer it? Why are people so hung up on making Apex like the other games?
Different playlists will split the player base. That is a fact.
The game would need some reworking to make solos viable. I would rather Respawn work on the core game and add content and fix issues than a new game mode which could bring it's own issues and bugs.
Couldn't agree more with this. The game, for me at least, is designed for team play. I don't want that to change, it's what keeps it fun and fresh for me.
Yep, I agree. I've had great games with randoms, but with team understanding.
I've been saved by Gib throwing up a shield. I've pulled great flanks on enemies using Wraiths portal and also some great revives/rescues also using the portal. Lifeline is great for the team if used correctly and saves team mates hoarding med kits. Caustic using traps to keep a team away while he revives. Pathfinder getting his team out of or into a danger zone with his ult. The list is endless imo.
People often don't see past there own game play and agenda. I'm guilty of this sometimes when team mates don't communicate or I overlook what they are up to. I forgot I was playing Lifeline when both team mates needed health.. I felt a proper idiot.... Or I jump into a fire fight when my team mates may not be fully equip to do the same (poor weapons etc).
People already complain about being third partied. In solos this would become even more of an issue imo.
If Respawn bring in solos, that's fine, but I fully understand why they haven't. The begging on the forum to introduce solos, when the game mechanics, and the lack of any news to suggest this mode is on the cards is tiresome.
"If you want solo's what is wrong with the other BR games that offer it?" seriously?
Simply that the other BR are not the same, don't feel that good (feelings with weapons, movement agility, heroes abilities)"Different playlist wil split the player base"
So? the queue time is inexistant because so many ppl are playing, the player base CAN be split and that's also a fact. OW, CS and all other multiplayer game have some 2 minutes queue, nobody is dying.
"I don't want that to change, it's what keeps it fun and fresh for me."
Well GOOD NEWS (everyone) your squad mode won't change! People just want to add a solo mode, we won't touch at your "designed team play" where half of the players leave as soon as they are dead anyway.
"I would rather Respawn work on the core game and add content"
Well solo and duo IS content.And about the game being thought in team, hitboxes (already a pblm in squad but whatever), respawn beacon, knockdown shield and all those mechanics thought for squad I don't see a problem.
Let everybody play Wraith, Bangalore or Lifeline if they want (somebody talked about her shorten rez time with shield to state she's only viable in group, that's not why she's good, more for her heal drone and reduction time to heal HERSELF, so totally viable in solo, oh and her ult that won't get stolen by a random for once) and let beacon and knockback shield be useless, what's the big deal? like really please explain me why deleting beacon and knockback shields would be a problem, and what hero would have a disadvantage he doesn't already have?People need to understand that adding a solo mode won't change their trio mode, well it will change, they will have less instant-leavers-once-dead, but Respawn prefers to punish players that do that than adding what they want...
@Rammstonna wrote:"If you want solo's what is wrong with the other BR games that offer it?" seriously?
Simply that the other BR are not the same, don't feel that good (feelings with weapons, movement agility, heroes abilities)"Different playlist wil split the player base"
So? the queue time is inexistant because so many ppl are playing, the player base CAN be split and that's also a fact. OW, CS and all other multiplayer game have some 2 minutes queue, nobody is dying.
"I don't want that to change, it's what keeps it fun and fresh for me."
Well GOOD NEWS (everyone) your squad mode won't change! People just want to add a solo mode, we won't touch at your "designed team play" where half of the players leave as soon as they are dead anyway.
"I would rather Respawn work on the core game and add content"
Well solo and duo IS content.And about the game being thought in team, hitboxes (already a pblm in squad but whatever), respawn beacon, knockdown shield and all those mechanics thought for squad I don't see a problem.
Let everybody play Wraith, Bangalore or Lifeline if they want (somebody talked about her shorten rez time with shield to state she's only viable in group, that's not why she's good, more for her heal drone and reduction time to heal HERSELF, so totally viable in solo, oh and her ult that won't get stolen by a random for once) and let beacon and knockback shield be useless, what's the big deal? like really please explain me why deleting beacon and knockback shields would be a problem, and what hero would have a disadvantage he doesn't already have?People need to understand that adding a solo mode won't change their trio mode, well it will change, they will have less instant-leavers-once-dead, but Respawn prefers to punish players that do that than adding what they want...
Lifeline Ult "that won't get stolen"... There you have it. That care package is for the team. It's not just Lifelines exclusively.... The same as the health drone is for the team.
I try to leave loot for team mates. I leave my care package for them if I'm happy with my loadout, or if I see a team mate is need of something on there.
I play Apex with my team in mind. Early game I don't do the "race for loot and beat my team mates to it". I pick up what I want/need and leave some weapons/ammo for the team.
Another bug bare for me is "they stole my kill"... I don't care who kills who. I'd rather have a team mate focus fire and help tbh. But again, some people are so hung up on their game, their stats etc they forget it's a team game.
It's not hard to stick together and play to each others strengths. It's the fact players think they know better and want to play "their way" then complain that it doesn't work and think solos will solve their issues.
@Silz616 wrote:Lifeline Ult "that won't get stolen"... There you have it. That care package is for the team. It's not just Lifelines exclusively.... The same as the health drone is for the team.
I try to leave loot for team mates. I leave my care package for them if I'm happy with my loadout, or if I see a team mate is need of something on there.
I play Apex with my team in mind. Early game I don't do the "race for loot and beat my team mates to it". I pick up what I want/need and leave some weapons/ammo for the team.
Another bug bare for me is "they stole my kill"... I don't care who kills who. I'd rather have a team mate focus fire and help tbh. But again, some people are so hung up on their game, their stats etc they forget it's a team game.
It's not hard to stick together and play to each others strengths. It's the fact players think they know better and want to play "their way" then complain that it doesn't work and think solos will solve their issues.
So you basically answered nothing I asked about why it wouldn't work in solo and just picked up 5 words lmao
I know her package is for the team, I was mentionning her package so ppl understand her abilities work also in solo, even though it's a game that was designed with team play in mind.
Solos - In addition to the many other reasons posted against it, solo will affect the whole game, because it needs specific adjustments, different than those for team mode, and most probably a new map. This translates to way more issues, increasing development time and significantly slowing updates.
Duos - This kind of happens already, due to respawn timeouts and quitters. But I'm curious how a match with 3-4 teams of high level, preformed duos and 16-20 teams of low/mid level randoms trios would turn up.
Quads - would hardly be different than trios, unless some new class of legends appear.
Thing is, if other game modes, maps or ranked matchmaking will be added to the game, the playerbase will be split, which means we might end up waiting a lot more to find a match. Considering this, it's much better to prioritize fixes and content that enhances the current experience, like new legends, new loot, new skins, map extensions.
@DoYaSeeMe wrote:Solos - In addition to the many other reasons posted against it, solo will affect the whole game, because it needs specific adjustments, different than those for team mode, and most probably a new map. This translates to way more issues, increasing development time and significantly slowing updates.
What specific adjustements? and why a new map?
all other BR use the same map and adjustement if you talk about heroes please explain why it needs it? like why a hero is ok as he is now in trio but won't be in solo? each hero have good and bad point to play in solo, and if 2 or even 4 heroes are not used what's the big deal?- @Rammstonna
The map of Apex has concentrated areas of loot and is much smaller than the maps of other BR games, with less buildings and higher elevation difference, while the movement is much faster. The fights will probably involve 5-10 players often, favoring legends like Gibraltar and Caustic in close combat, because of their fortified perk and high damage abilities.
Some areas of the map are only accessible to Pathfinder, it can get there with any decent mid/long range weapon (not to mention Kraber ) and score many kills before they are even noticed. Lifeline will be the perfect candidate for sniper training, especially when she's calling a package, followed by Caustic and Gibraltar with their bullet magnet hitboxes. There's no point in choosing Lifeline, Bangalore, Octane, Mirage, Bloodhound, not even the void jumping small boxed Wraith. Caustic choice will be a gamble because, if most of the room chooses the same, his abilities become useless and any unreachable, high ground sniper Pathfinder will most probably be the death of him. Same story with Gibraltar and solo mode will probably become a Pathfinder deathmatch.
Limiting the choice of legends will end up with players that main the forbidden ones complaining. Then there will be more whining about kill stealing, as many skilled warriors will get one shotted while healing or looting after defeating dozens of enemies.
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