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r4ndwulfswee's avatar
6 years ago

Why is skill based matchmaking nonexistent?

MUT makes it so that the easiest way to get coins is to go in head to head pubs, but why? I mean having less than an 80 overall team and going against someone who has objectively more skill and no way to improve my team without money? It makes barely any sense. The game is also tilted so that better cards win always, unless extremely close in rating. A 90 overall with a little skill can stuff a 75 overall within the top 10% of players. Punishment for the least experienced players is what it sounds like. 

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  • Its not non existent. Its broken. Its there its just not actually doing anything to help people with less skill. 

  • r4ndwulfswee's avatar
    r4ndwulfswee
    6 years ago

    Lol ig when I typrd in skill based matchmaking it brought me to apex. Apex has the opposite problem 

  • @r4ndwulfswee Personally, I only have terrible matchmaking when I play in a pre-made squad. It seems that the SBMM doesn't work when you are in one. I am sure it will be something fixed in the future, they did a good job with all of the cheaters on console so no reason why they can't fix the matchmaking!
  • PeterN_UK's avatar
    PeterN_UK
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @HogynDrwg

    In 2nd video it mentions a developer officially stating there is no EOMM at timestamp 0:55

    Then at 1:36 it mentions ELO system. Basically players lose and win hidden points on game outcome to measure skill rating. That means it is measured over several historical games. That is EOMM. Can't rate a person's skill from one game.

    Won't be measured by total kills, rank 500 or overall sum of stats.

    It is one or more of the below.

    KD over last X games
    Average damage over last X games
    Average kills over last X games
    0 kills and 0 deaths
    landing off/suicide the map on purpose when you have low rank team mates
    etc

    Just wish there was visibility what which one(s) above are utilised for calculating skill rating. Perhaps giving this information out would negatively impact by players trying to take advantage or something.

    EA's EOMM patent which the developer said is not in use in Apex also lowers your ELO if you have not played for X amount if time in order to make you feel warm to the game again.

    https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/How-does-EA-think-it-s-going-to-retain-new-players/m-p/9589275#M112342

    For me I feel it does match making based on last around 5 games.

    But nevermind SBMM or EOMM etc. As long as I know "how" my rating is calculated it might feel more justified on "why" it is implemented that way.

  • @r4ndwulfswee

    I’m confused. My matches have been ridiculously more sweaty since the crossplay update. I’m talking about over 75% of the dive trails being Red or Purple. You definitely have the random premade Pred team that gets lumped into a low level lobby, but I can guarantee you that the bulk of the high skilled players are getting dropped into the same lobbies with each other.

    Casual/average players should be happy, as the matchmaking is definitely keeping them safer than they could be had the lobbies been populated randomly.

    In fact, there are many casual/average players that are winning and performing better than high skilled players, because those top tier lobbies are only being won by the best teams in the world. There are a bunch of Masters-level players with low win rates and KD’s simply because the public matches are so grueling. The game is actually punishing this group of people because they previously showed a specific level of skill. It’s actually pretty disheartening because you would think that in ANY activity, improvement = better performance overall— but this just isn’t the case due to SBMM.

    But this is the strategy that makes EA money. It isn’t about what’s fair, it’s about keeping lower-level skilled players happy and opening their wallets.

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