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@Zero-Loot5 I'm just highly cynical about anti 3rd party protesters for one reason and one reason alone. I know for a fact they also do it.
As a s1 player, never once can I say I've seen a squad sit and wait for a fight to end, the surviving team to heal and then engage. Why? Because the point is to be the last team standing it would simply be bad strategy to do so.
I third party, and I get third partied, it's the natural cycle of thing. As others have pointed out if people want to fight squad vs squad arena is the perfect place for them.
As for "top streamers" complaining about third partying, it was they who promoted 3rd partying on a large scale, so to complain now is somewhat hypocritical lol.
That being said I'm all for quieter gunfire simply because the sheer amount of audio clutter on apex is next level.
There are different types of third parties. There are people who actually just wait for fights to happen so that they can then third party cause that's the only way they can make some kills and there are coincidental 3rd parties that just happen when you rund around the map and hear gunshots.
Cause sure: This is a shooter. I want gunfights with enemies. So when me and my team run around the map in search for enemies and then we hear shot, sure then we say "Uhh they're fighting. Let's go there". Cause that's the point of the game. But that doesn't mean that we WANT to 3rd party. It's just that when we hear a fight we want to engage as well instead of just running around.
But that doesn't make these 3rd parties any less frustrating for the people on the receiving end. And what Bean criticizes is the fact that "coincidental third parties" as I am calling them happen so easily because - as he/she rightfully notices - you can hear gunshots across the whole map. They are bound to happen cause the point of a shooter is to shoot people and because gunshots are audible from miles away people get drawn to them from miles away when the "actual" fight is still going. Reducing the range for gunshots would help and here as well I don't think it would hurt anyone except for camping bots who can literally only make kills by 3rd partying.
And personally I also don't get much joy or feeling of accomplishment when I kill someone who has 30HP. Sure I have my kill so nice, statistical improvement. But I personally care more about the challenge of actually being good. I know, *some* people here have a different approach but personally that's how I feel. An "honorable" fight in which my team wins cause we are better is what is most rewarding and not some "Hehehe I'm camping here and hit you with one G7 shot from 200m and get the kill" kind of camping stuff.
Also also Arenas is not really an alternative cause right now the kills, wins and damage records you get there are absolutely worthless. BR kills, wins and damage records can be shown off with trackers. But no matter what you achieve in Arenas: it's completely worthless. No Badge. No tracker.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
@Zero-Loot5Arena does in fact have its own set of trackers. Damage done, Kills, and wins. You also get 3 badges one of which being win streaks.
- 5 years ago@E9ine_AC Mhh interesting. Were they added later on?
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@Zero-Loot5 No they was added when it launched.
- 5 years ago
@Zero-Loot5 Fair enough, but there is no coincidental 3rd parties as you call them lol, the moment you hear that teams engagement and you decide to attack then it's a calculated decision, which is also what the majority do.
As for the team you're third partying, I doubt they see any difference between a 'coincidental 3rd party' as you put it, and a team waiting around to 3rd them....as the bottom line is the action is exactly the same.
For the record I'm not sitting on either side of the fence here, I couldn't care less if they try to reduce 3rd party scenarios or not, either way I shall remain a rambo. XD
However if they were to the gunfight audio is only a minor part of the issue, the fact mobility legends, especially legends such as valk/pathy/octane can allow their teams to traverse the map so quickly means that there will always unavoidably be 3rd partying seeing as most teams have at least one of these legends.
- 5 years agoyou have to condition yourself to heal asap. I see a lot of people stand still on a deathbox with 10 hp, not even swapping and dying to a 3rd party or trying to heal in the open and getting shot. Yes, sometimes a squad rolls up at unfortunate moment and gets cheap kills. But that will always be a problem in a fast paced BR. If I am playing ranked and my squadmates go down when a 3rd team arrives, I am outta there and will play for banner retrieval or use jumpad/portal to get them out.
My gripe is lack of audio sometimes. Had enemy squads using zipline with no audio, shadow totem users jumppadding with no sound. These areas can be improved.- hayhor5 years agoHero@BaldWraithSimp Yeah I see a lot of greedy people looting boxes without shield swapping or healing as I'm yelling into the mic heal there is another squad. They die trying to get stuff before others.
- 5 years ago@MandatoryIDtag There is 100% a difference between wanting to fight fairly but only having an ongoing fight as your only option and therefore joining that fight and being a camping female dog who only wants to do 3rd parties in the first place. The difference is not in the action or result but in the mindset.
- 5 years ago@Zero-Loot5 You can't do anything about mindsets unfortunately, it's just part of the game :/