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@hayhor wrote:
@brakeitIt is not untrue. People did ask for duos. Respawn play tested both as events and duos was much more successful. They have the data and have stated this.
I want solos so the people incapable as playing as a team have something to play.
Yeah its entirely untrue. They can say whatever they want. They are talking nonseses.
I bust the myth about legends unbalance in solos. There will be way more viable legends in Solos, then they are in trios for example.
Find the thread for it.
As far as duos goes on, i`m here for a long time. You can even check the search button. The request for solos was and still is HUGE, and because they are stubborn and didn`t want to gave us solo, made it like "WE" wanted a duos, and they gave us that mode .... Its 100% untrue.
Apex playerbase is constantly getting smaller and smaller, so this just prove me right, and prove them wrong by saying that Solos negatively impacted the game and new player retention.
This is completely wrong. And i think i explain this very well in my previous post.
Try to argue with anything i said.
Everyone will tell you that you will get better way faster doing 1vs1, Deathmatch, TDM and in modes where you are in constant battles. Especially if you Solo queue player.
I`m a solo queue player. Every single game i get potatos(and its not me, i`m watching ShivFPS and the brain..... teammates that he get its just ridiculous). Just a recent example. Last squad, he kill 1 of them, but Horizon jump on him with no sound and manage to kill him, but ShivFPS shoot him hard and he was low, so he down 1, Horizon was low, and the 3rd was Pathfinder that got nothing, cause he was just respawned and was just punching. And of course his potato team mates was super late, and instead of fight straight away, they decide to loot the BOX, get wrecked and died.
Every single time i need to explain my random team mates what to do, and they still are doing all the wrong stuff.
Tired of carrying every single game. I don`t remember when was the last time someone of my teammates outperform me in terms of damage.
You are saying team game, but there is none. Its not my fault i get teammates that are looting for like 10 minutes, and don`t know how to move properly. We are getting third party, which is obvious from miles, i`m screaming run and regroup 10 seconds before the third party comes and shoot, because i know the game, i know the map, where i`m fighting, the zone i`m fighting and the chance to get 3rd partied, as well as have good game sense and knowledge. I`m screaming run/regroup, but no they are staying, looting, fighting at half hp or lower to a new fresh team - they die, and then scream at me, why i moved. ;D
Sorry but people are leaving this game exactly for this experience. I know so many people that are leaving for that. No friends from my country left to play, and of course i`m forced to solo queue. And of course i deleted Apex Legends, because of the cool experience, as well as few other stuffs.
I still have hope for this game, cause the TTK, and moving, as well as some game mechanics are top notch and you can`t find them anything else, but you are not keeping your playerbase, by just doing shiny skins and things like gold mag that no one ask for.
Look at Warzone, 50 million played the game at its release and then their player base increase to 80million. I know one of the main reason its because its super casual, but they constantly, and i mean constantly add NEW modes people wanted, like solos, like TDM, duos, Quads, rebirth resurgence, plunder, and there is leaks that like 10-13 new game modes are going to be introduced.
This is how you are getting new player base, and retaining your current. I mean come on Quake Champions, an Arena FPS game have like 20 game modes, Apex have 2 ....
On Quake Champions i can practice every mode i want and play with bots if i feel in need to improve, like a Rail Gun only, no problem you have Instagib i want to work on my Target Switching and reacting fast, no problem you have Deathmatch. I want to get fun in team, no problem you have TDM, you have no ability team mode, you have everything.
And you can against players, and against bots.
Apex doesn`t even have a proper Firing Range, when you can train and improve.
Apex is a game where as a game mechanics like Movement and TTK they pretty much nail them perfectly. You can`t get much better than this. Maps are good, there is cover in a lot of places, but its not camper orientated, like Warzone for example. You can move in the open if you know what your doing, unlike in Warzone, there you need vehicle most % of the time.
But legends balance is terrible, new features added to the game is terrible as well. No need to give us new legend every single expansion, just work and gives a new modes.
As far as legends balance in solos, here is what i have to say about it:
Solved: Lets bust the myth about Solos - Answer HQ (ea.com)
Obviously way more legends are viable for solo, then they are now for trios, and this is a straight up facts.
Apex has been able to pump out features and abilities no games have ever done. The movement on apex alone is on another level from any other fps ive tried. The guns are in a way some of them the first of its kind also.
With COD your stacked with tons of guns. I mean a lot. Whats the need? Who needs all these weapons? One thing i highly dislike thats a topic on these forums is players comparing one game to another when they are leagues apart.
As for game modes apex stived and worked hard to ensure this game was fully team game play and viable legends/abilities for many situations. So I understand when they say some legends abilities become useless.
- 5 years ago@E9ine_AC yeah i have always said this about the movement, the TTK and so on, that they hit the nail perfectly with it. I don`t know if it has the best movement(in terms of speed), but in terms of aiming/dodging its great. Jumping in this game is super balance as well. I actually like Quake Champions( and Quake games as a whole) but i understand this will be way too anti-casual, and people will complain they won`t be able to hit their shot, even more.
But i totally don`t like the Pathfinder, Wraith and other hitboxes nerf, cause its lowering the skill ceiling. I`m not a Wraith or Path player.
If you want to toon them down, find other way. Or just reduce the hitbox of other legends.
You will agree that nerfing hitbox, you are also nerfing dodging mechanics. I mean at the end of the day you can have absolutely the best movement speed, but it will be in no use if the hitboxes are like a truck.
As far as comparison goes i disagree. You should look what the competition does(as Warzone is BR game, and steal many of Apex players, and its doing like 100x better than Apex atm), what does better and try to do the same, but the way it fits your game, try to see what it does wrong and try not doing it as well.
As far as game modes goes i disagree as well.
CS:GO is a team competition goes, as well as one of the best and the game its pretty much on the market forever and proved in time, with the previous 1.6 and so on. But still the game offer all kind of different modes, right ? You got DM, you got solo, you got wingman, you got Casual, Competitive, you even got Danger Zone and like 2 millions and 555 thousands of Workshop maps/modes, where you could do all you can.
Just because a game have solo modes, that doesn`t mean its not team orientated. You just cover the wishes of your player base.
You also open yourself for more money from Big tournaments in Solos. Cause duos tournaments will be useless.
Do you remember the solos twitch rivals, that tournament was insane and super fun to watch.
And lets be real playing as a solo queue, you pretty much play solo in handicap mode. The moment your ally is down(not killed, but down), 99,99% of the time in Duos they straight up leave, the % in trios is a bit lower, but the % your teammates are leaving straight away is bigger than they staying, you know ?- hayhor5 years agoHero
@LordloshBangThanks I always enjoy when people post their opinions as facts. 🤣
- 5 years ago
@hayhor wrote:@LordloshBangThanks I always enjoy when people post their opinions as facts. 🤣
Okay explain with what exactly you disagree?
That Mirage, Octane, Revenant, Pathfinder, Loba, Bangalore is way more viable for solos compare to trios ?
No one use Mirage and Octane in high ranked, or let just say at high skill level. But both of them will be actually super strong and viable in Solos. Isn`t that facts?
This is pretty much relevant for Revenant, Pathfinder, Loba, and Bangalore.
Pathfinder atm just have way better alternative in high ranked. Bangalore i solo used by ShivFPS, just because he loves her and stick to her, no matter how average she is.
All this legends are super viable in solos, and will shiny.
I can tell you that i can outplay a lot of players with Mirage decoys and ultimate for example, that pretty much gives nothing in trios. Its the same with Octane. It will be played a lot. Loba will be super viable to get what she want before everyone else, which will give you huge advantage early. Also her bracelet will work way better if you get shot by 1 people, not 3, right? With Revenant you pretty much shut every legends, have edge in strafe crouching, and pretty much can push them without consequences, and you have to push 1 guy, not 3.
Bangalore for sure with her double time and smoke, and her ult if she needs to retreat.
Pathfinder will be strong for his retread, as well as for his zipline.
Rampart and Watson will be way more viable in solos if you decide to camp.
Or its not facts that Wraith, Bloodhound, Horizon, Caustic, Gibraltar, will be just as viable in Solos, as they are in High skilled play?
Yeah no matter how you look at it, actually there is way more viable legends for Solos, than there is viable legends for trios.
So the whole balance thing is just a one big excuse to not give the players what they want.
But they are losing players doing all the wrong moves.
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