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KAece_T's avatar
4 years ago

Frame drops, input lag, low GPU utilization in certain locations

## Frame drops, input lag, low GPU utilization in certain locations or looking in certain directions

When i stand in certain locations and look in certain directions (particularly towards the center of the map), my frames drop from ~140-200 down to ~100-110. This happens especially on Worlds edge and Olympus, around cities (fragment in particular) or inside buildings. I get low GPU utilization, and sluggishness.

PC SPECS:
Ryzen 7 3700X: PBO enabled, custom fan curve (chipset driver version 3.10.08.506)
MSI RX Vega 56 8GB: 1500 MHz max frequency, custom fan curve (driver version 21.10.2 WHQL)
2x8 GB, DDR4, 3200 MHz, CL16 (dual channel, slots A2 & B2) (XMP enabled)
ASRock B450M Pro4 (BIOS version P5.30 (latest of march 2022))
EVGA 650 Watt (model: 100-N1-0650-L1, 80+ white)
Monitor: AOC 27G2G4 (144 Hz, Freesync, connected with display port)
500 GB SSD M.2 via SATA, 1 TB HDD via SATA
USB keyboard, mouse, and mic

OS: Win10 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 19044.1586)
Connection: Ethernet (DSL, 12 mbit/s down, 1 mbit/s up)

* Ive attached a HWiNFO64 screenshot, and a DxDiag

- OS and game are both installed on the SSD
- Freesync enabled (vsync disabled both in the drivers and ingame)
- Steam launcher
- Frames capped to 140 fps with RTSS
- mostly low ingame settings

ABOUT THE PROBLEM:
I dont experience this problem in any other games (warzone, BFV). All other games run perfectly for me.

Ive had this problem for a really long time (years probably), but it just got so annoying

I recorded a video showing the problem: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/8ltvn4svgq9ggid/2022-03-09%2014-33-40%20-encd.mp4?dl=0 (its a hotlink to the video on dropbox)

Notice how i get 140+ fps looking in some directions (this is my expected frame rate), and then when i turn towards the center of the map, it plummets to 100 fps. I also get a lot more input lag when this happens (due to more than just the low fps; the game feels really sluggish), and my GPU utilization drops to around 70%.


When i play other games, my GPU is at 100% for a long time without issues as well. GPU temps dont go over 70 celcius when ingame, with capped frames (140 fps).

In this game, i would expect a constant 140 fps on low settings (except for when dropping from the dropship, or in smoke-filled places of course). When looking at a wall, like in the video, i would expect like 200 fps.

I ran Memtest without errors, so the ram should be fine

EDIT (cpu bottleneck, fixed mistakes, added screenshot and dxdiag.txt): When i increase the graphics to high, my GPU usage gets higher. It seems like im CPU bound, but only on a couple cores. See my attached screenshot: 'TaskManager CPU Charts.jpeg'. Notice how 4 of the threads are constantly spiking to 100%. Notice that at any point in time, theres always one thread that is at 100% usage. Im guessing that the load is being shifted to different cores to avoid overheating just a single core (and maintaining boost). Also, notice that many of the threads arent even being used at all.

WHAT IVE TRIED:
- restarting game
- restarting PC
- restarting router/modem
- closing background apps
- switching through all the fullscreen modes (including fullscreen 'exclusive')
- changing ingame graphics settings
- trying different texture streaming budgets
- toggling freesync, and switching through all the ingame vsync modes
- uncapping fps, and capping using drivers, game launch codes, RTSS
- flushing dns
- lowering mouse polling rate
- enabling windows game mode
- using different windows performance plans
- disabling FSO
- playing with a VPN
- setting affinity and priority for r5apex.exe
- switching launchers (currently on steam)
- running game as admin
- running 'verify game files' in steam
- clearing gpu shader cache
- trying different display drivers (21.4.1, 21.6.1, 21.8.2, 21.10.2, 22.1.2, Pro21.Q4)
- DDU-ing display drivers
- reinstalling all the drivers given on my MoBo's website
- disabling cpu multithreading (just weakens my cpu)
- flashing new bios (4.30, 4.60, 5.30)
- clean booting (RUN > msconfig > services > unchecked all non-microsoft services)
- clean reinstalling windows (by formatting ssd, then booting from bootable usb, using the media creation tool) (game files were sideloaded)

- redownloading the entire game

18 Replies

  • I have a XFX Radeon 6900xt and ryzen 5800x ( Both stock

    I know its not a bottleneck because i do monitor my temps, core utilization etc with OpenHardwareMonitor at all times no matter what i play.

    They are showing the same curves as it did before this became an issue.

    But yes Apex does not like AMD at all, that much is for sure.

    Even tho my game usually runs fine my GPU will not surpass 1000mhz clockspeeds while playing Apex, it does reach 1800-2200 while in the dropship, but after that it settles down and doesnt do much.
    Doesn't seem to affect the games performance so im not sure what that is.
    You can force the clocks to run 1800-2400 at all times, but as i stated earlier the performance doesnt seem to change much.

    Being a Source Engine game im sure CPU is a bigger factor.

  • KAece_T's avatar
    KAece_T
    4 years ago
    @GuntherWolfgangz Damn its crazy how youre still struggling even with that PC. I have no idea what the problem is for you, but im pretty sure that there always has to be a bottleneck somewhere. But if it started recently and it only happens in apex, id be super confused
  • Yeah, the game is poorly optimized when changes are made sadly.

    And the server performance does not help either

  • xiopiyeotl's avatar
    xiopiyeotl
    4 years ago

    i have the same from, sometimes my pc sound like turbo jet

    RTX3080
    I710700K STOCK
    32ram 
    512 SSD

  • Yeah well sadly this is something we will have to endure untill season 13.

    They will not adresse or fix this mid season.

    They could, but they wont

  • papawolf4's avatar
    papawolf4
    Rising Vanguard
    4 years ago

    Stop wasting ur time, the game engine itself is crap, get used to it! 

  • @KAece_T Same problem since 2019 (launch) Looking at certains locations makes the aim/mouse very choppy even tho fps is always 144 fps, while looking at the sky its smooth as butter. Can i invite u guys in my discord group?? To figure this * out.