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Re: What to do if your Apex Legends account got banned or suspended

Hello,

so i previously got banned in Apex Legends, i'm not sure what the reason was, but i managed to Appeal my Ban and after a few appeals they unbanned me. Which shows that i'm really innocent i guess. So happily i redownload the game and play for a few rounds and i start to get the Message that i'm banned. Again... This means for me that there is something which triggers the Anti-Cheat in thinking that i am Cheating but i am not.. my KD is not really the greatest, and i've had too much money and time on that account to get it banned by cheating.. 

So i would appreciate if i could get any help on what programm/app is making this happen..

I read that Corsair iCUE, LG-HUB and MSI Afterburner can be a Trigger to Easy Anti-Cheat to get you banned, but it doesnt make sense when i look at it like that, because there is a lot of people using these App's and there would be a lot of other people being banned... 

Other than that i saw that People got banned for Connection issues. I'm also having connection issues actually, but i can't resolve them because its not in my capability to do anything about it.

My ISP has issues with Routing Points and apparently this causes me to join lobbies where i have high packetloss, but as far as i know, i'm not disrupting anyone elses gameplay, because i'm the only person lagging in that lobby... It gets unplayable for me but thankfully it doesnt happen that often, tho it definitly does within a Session of Gaming (for like 3h+) at least once.

I am always getting the Red Icon's on the top right of my Screen while playing Apex, which indicates that, i have either Connection issues, Sound Issues, or what so ever, literally Every Game, but my Gameplay still feels somewhat "fine" even tho i get those Red Icons a lot, its also not like they are constantly there, they just appear and go away randomly... 

After all that Explenation, i hope someone can help me resolve this issue, because i just want to enjoy a good time playing apex with my Friends..

Going from my Experience i'm not really sure if the ToS Team is willing to explain to me what gets me banned or if they would ever give me any tips on how to avoid getting banned, which is the reason why i hope that i can at least find some answers here. 

Thanks in advance!

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  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
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    3 years ago

    You will need to speak to our Terms of Service team @Kinq_Shogun as no one else can assist or comment.

    The process to contact our ToS team can be found here: https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/account/information-about-banned-or-suspended-accounts/

    1. Click Contact us at the top of any page on EA Help.
    2. Select the game that your account was banned or suspended from. If it’s on your whole EA Account, choose Origin.
    3. Choose your platform.
    4. Select Manage my account, then Banned or suspended account.
    5. Fill out any other details below.
      • For example, if you picked Origin, it might ask you if you are accessing the game through an Origin Access membership.
    6. Click Select contact option.
    7. Sign in to your account that has the ban or suspension, if you aren’t already.

    Darko

     


  • @EA_Darko wrote:

    You will need to speak to our Terms of Service team @Kinq_Shogun as no one else can assist or comment.

    The process to contact our ToS team can be found here: https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/account/information-about-banned-or-suspended-accounts/

    1. Click Contact us at the top of any page on EA Help.
    2. Select the game that your account was banned or suspended from. If it’s on your whole EA Account, choose Origin.
    3. Choose your platform.
    4. Select Manage my account, then Banned or suspended account.
    5. Fill out any other details below.
      • For example, if you picked Origin, it might ask you if you are accessing the game through an Origin Access membership.
    6. Click Select contact option.
    7. Sign in to your account that has the ban or suspension, if you aren’t already.

    Darko


    Yes uhm, this wasn't really about the Ban straight up, it was rather about a way to avoid the ban, because as mentioned there is clearly something triggering the anti cheat system, and i dont know what, if i would, i would just remove it so i dont get banned anymore... 

    and therefore, i'd like to find a way to troubleshoot this, but i tried already everything which is stated in the forum. so i was asking here for help if anyone knows for sure that some app or something might be a common issue regarding this

  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
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    3 years ago

    Hey @Kinq_Shogun the only ones who can assist with a ban is our live support team.


    We are not able to assist or discuss this with you in any way or help you avoid a ban.


    If there is a ban on your account then it needs to be appealed with our TOS team.

    Darko

  • @EA_Darko are you sure about this? People are being banned by no reason, I know some of them, and they are not all wrong.... It's impossible.
    Mannaging a community is to teel the truth and be fair to users, ans even more to paying custumers.
  • XHelperZ's avatar
    XHelperZ
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    3 years ago

    @RASMelo23 

    Whilst yes, sometimes mistakes do happen, do note that these are typically a small percentage.

    People receive a mail for their ban reason, they can also contact the support team for more information about the ban.

    So if your friend isn't sure about why they got banned, let them shoot a message to the proper channels.

  • @XHelperZ this is also misleading!
    I've read some of those mails and, as someone used to work with app support, thai something that I do for the last 20 year, I assure yhta the message does not inform why a ban is being made. unless someone can agree that you consider that messages like "IN VIOLATION OF OUR USER AGREEMENT OR OUR TERMS OF SALE, AND DUE TO THE NATURE OF THIS VIOLATION WE ARE LEFT WITH NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO PERMANENTLY CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT WITH" are acceptable as a reason. I don't
    It's just my opinion, but being clear and objective is part of a professional conduct.
    If thousands of people complain about the same problem, are they all wrong? I don't believe that.
  • XHelperZ's avatar
    XHelperZ
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    3 years ago

    @RASMelo23 

    Bans related to in-game behaviour is properly noted in the mail.

    The ban you're referring to is related to purchasing things on the EA platform.

    These types of bans might not be so common, hence why it's targeting the entire Terms of Sale in this mail, though do note that players are bale to get more information about their bans if they contact support.

    This is done to maximise efficiency as they won't have templates ready for every specific line in the Terms of Sale and so forth, it's a bit easier to do it like this.

    Also if someone got banned for violating the Terms of Sale, it's almost always right as these types of bans typically come from players requesting a chargeback at their bank.

    Breaking the User Agremeent is a bit easier since it can just include you saying some bad words in-game, breaking the Terms of Sale would be a bit harder to do.

  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
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    3 years ago

    Hey @RASMelo23 and @XHelperZ, we do not discuss bans on AHQ.

    If someone has a ban on their account and believe it is incorrect then they will need to appeal with our TOS team.

    Darko 

  • @EA_Darko I do not want to discuss the BAN itself, but the information that is being given to users on this topic on this forum!

    I'm just saying, it seems to me that the information shared is not correct, that is, it is stated in several forums, including this one, that the TOS team helps to solve problems related to BAN, but the reality of the facts shows otherwise.

    It is for this reason and because I am studying this issue in a research that I am doing that I asked if the moderators are right when they refer people who need help to a team that in reality either does not respond, or has no ability to respond and on a large number of occasions it hurts users for no reason.

    I don't want to create controversy, but the facts point to a reality where EA can and should greatly improve the support they give to their users and customers.

    Harming someone without a clear reason is detrimental to EA and unfair to users.

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  • @XHelperZ I understand what you are saying, but it is not difficult to inform users about the specific problem that caused the sanction. It is a duty to the users.

    Is it a lack of will? Lack of capacity to respond?

    Sanctioning without a clear and objective reason to the user is wrong, and in some cases, where economic transactions have occurred, it may even be considered a crime, at least in the EU.
  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
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    3 years ago

    @RASMelo23 

    The specific problem is indeed communicated with the initial email when an action is taken.

    For example, in situations involving cheating, players would be informed that the account action is for cheating, along with information from our User Agreement further clarifying what we consider cheating to include.

    In cases of chat violations, that chat would be shared as well, again with the appropriate clarifying information from our User Agreement.

    What is not shared are details such as what particular cheating software was found or when, or any details regarding our internal systems as this type of information is highly valuable to those that would wish to bypass our detection methods.

    It's difficult to speculate on these things without having the full picture available, which is another reason we cannot address these types of issues on the forums and those wanting to dispute an account action will need to appeal that with our Terms of Service team directly.

  • I encountered the same problem. I logged in to the server on the 12th. At that time, the server was often offline. I don't know if it was because you suspected me of malicious attack on the server and banned me from playing because I wanted to play the game too much, so I wanted to enter the game. Sorry

  • @EA_Mako

    I understand what is being said, but I don't fully subscribe to it.

    On the one hand you say that you want to defend the users and the suitability of the control system, but then the TOS team is not able to analyze the issues with due depth and respond in useful time actively harming its users.

    In the study I did, I am 99.99% sure that there was no breach of the rules defined by the banned users.

    I have set up and managed development and support teams in three different countries on different continents and a child support organization asked me to analyze some cases of kids that lost access to games and were extremely frustrated. These kids, without going into details, have some mental difficulties and have not committed any infraction.

    I am absolutely sure that accounts are being closed for breach of contract without any grounds, in this specific case, nothing is informed to the users! They lose everything and don't even get an explanation.

    In my opinion, in this context, these decisions are not correct or fair, and in some cases may even be illegal in some jurisdictions.

    EA can certainly do more and better to be fair to its users!

    Being fair, I recognize that EA has great products and also great people trying to do their best.
  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
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    3 years ago

    @RASMelo23 


    It's certainly admirable that you're looking out for other players here, and that's definitely appreciated.

    That said however, unfortunately you're working with incomplete information as you simply don't have access to the information our TOS team does. That they do not provide greater detail regarding an account's activity does not mean they don't have access to verify that internally when reviewing accounts.

    Statements such as this are quite simply incorrect. While the explanation provided may not be as detailed as some would like (for reasons covered previously), the reason for an account closure is provided via email when the action is taken on an account.


    I am absolutely sure that accounts are being closed for breach of contract without any grounds, in this specific case, nothing is informed to the users! They lose everything and don't even get an explanation.

    If someone feels the reason provided is incorrect, they're more than welcome to appeal the case, at which point another member of the ToS team will review the information leading to the initial action to see if a mistake was made.

    Ultimately that is not something that can be argued or performed on their behalf, and that will only be discussed with the account holder.

    Thank you for the feedback as that's always appreciated, though at this point I'll leave the conversation there as it really can't be too productive when the full picture isn't available. 🙂

  • @EA_Mako

    I'm leaving the conversation too!

    Besides leading nowhere we still have the same problems and it is extremely uncomfortable for me. EA gives no information! It always throws the phrase "contact the TOS team and they will help you solve your problem" but the answers are always empty of useful content, clarity, substance or pragmatism.

    It is very easy, when you take an action for a particular account, to clearly identify the problem and your teams don't do it on purpose to evade your responsibilities. If the TOS team accuses someone of not being serious they better be right, otherwise they don't deserve respect.

    I prefer not to evade my responsibilities and to be serious with others, but your teams don't think like me. I am lucky, I live with my conscience and not with yours!

    Thank you for your time, and please be serious in your answers, I don't think I'm asking for much, but I could just be wrong and your teams are really as bad as the messages they send.
  • @EA_Mako the reason for an account closure is provided via email when the action is taken on an account.

    -

    Really? How "Fraud" is a reason? It can be ANYTHING!

    You already had some severe banhammers to people who literally did nothing since your 'AI' is just too bad.

    Thankfully I've managed to live 3 years and now I get banned without any explanations! How is it okay?

    Both me and my friend got banned simultaneously.

    My friend got unbanned, I did not and I still don't know even roughly speaking what was the real reason of my declined disputes.

    I'm using different software starting with VPNs, ending with GoodbyeDPI and AHK. I'm not sure if it's that but I wouldn't be surprised since you had history banning people using "MSI Afterburner".

    The only question is - why other games with EAC don't react on any of that software if it doesn't interferes with the game? Or if it's not software what can it be? A "fraud". Great explanation.

    I heard that your perfect "AI" got updated recently, what it means and how it works we don't know and for a reason, I understand.

    But I lost a good account that I was playing since season 2 and didn't get any proper support (as if you have any support).

    Why would I pay money and even try to start a new account if I don't know what caused this ban? Should I reinstall my OS and not install anything except your game?

    And the most hillarious is the fact that you can barely ban cheaters who still present and will always be here.

    I heard about such situations but I could never imagine that I will get banned for no reason, how can I be not mad???

    I will never believe that your ToS team even trying to inspect the situation.

    If we both got banned and my friend got unbanned but I didn't, it only means that there is a human factor.

    One person decided to press 'unban' because he "was felling this way", the other - one clicked denial with generic response.

    That's how you work.

    It's just Russian Roulette. Support should never be like this.

    It's absolutely unprofessional.

  • @EA_Mako I agree with this.  It makes sense.  I do however also understand some points that @RASMelo23 is making.  I have disputed my case over 20 times by now.  The disputes originally started out as me thinking I was unfairly banned, but as time passed and more disputes were made and by reading on more info on ToS, conduct, positive play, and rules, etc.  I began to realize that I am indeed guilty and the ban is 100% just, no doubt.  Although I am guilty there are some factors at play such as my EA account linked to my Steam account causing problems with my other games having to sign in and out constantly, I was not aware of some of the rules leading to my ban(this is my own fault), I am the leader of a club and the members are messaging me asking what we can do to remove me as the leader.  This club subject is the last subject used for a dispute and the EA Help agent was very helpful and kind and they mentioned they might have a solution, I am now waiting for feedback from ToS.  I even wrote an appeal letter stating I am guilty but would still like to get a last chance to prove I can be a positive member of the community.  The previous agent said "It's all about how you approach and display your dispute"  which made me think I might have used incorrect wording or something, but I am hopeful that this new agent will be able to help.

    Do you think that EA might be able to look into issues such unlinking accounts even if banned(I mean i do still have access to my account and 2 step verification, it cant be a hacker).

    Hopefully ToS can also be more engaged with the members?  I find it hard to communicate as they are a bit vague sometimes.

    Lastly do you think this "greater detail" you mention includes messages between friends joking with each other saying stuff like "No F u" or "haha no man u dumb"  

    Interested in feedback on these questions I have

  • EA_Mako's avatar
    EA_Mako
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    3 years ago

    @Thielewapper 

    Typically speaking, if an account has been banned we won't be able to assist with any changes until/unless that ban is first removed by the Terms of Service team via an appeal. That would include linking/unlinking and so on.

    If the reason for a ban was due to messages sent in chat, those specific messages would generally be included in the initial email from our ToS team. 

    As far as sending joking messages between friends, those messages would need to be reported by someone and a violation of the Rules of Conduct for action to be taken.

    We wouldn't be able to speak to your particular situation on the forums as you'd need to continue working with the ToS team in that regard, but hopefully that clarifies some things in a broader sense.



    @bloodihunter 

    Please keep in mind we cannot review your status or any account bans on the forums. If your account was hacked and you believe a ban was applied incorrectly, please be sure to go through these security steps and then create an appeal here so our Terms of Service team can investigate further.

  • @EA_MakoYes definitely makes sense that you would need to be reported by someone for EA ToS to flag the messages, but I guess the third guy that got matched with us was the one reporting me, because he probably did not know we are friends.  I did ask my friend and he said he has never reported me not even as a joke toward me.  So the only possible scenario I can think of is that the third guy that was added to our team thought we were being serious and ended up reporting us, my friend hower hasn't received any warning, but it is probably because he mostly used voice chat and I heard ToS doesn't review voice chat as of yet?

  • musatem's avatar
    musatem
    3 years ago
    @RASMelo23 +1
    Hello,

    we received your latest message regarding the action taken on your account. We have performed all investigations possible on this issue and will not reverse the decision.

    Please do not expect further responses on this matter.

    Thank you,
    EA Terms of Service