For those who wonder why there's no AI in Portal, it's because enabling AI in Portal forces the server to restrict as much XP as possible, this is nonsensical if Modifiers, Restrictions or the Rules Editor is untouched as this would make the Portal server identical to that which is found in "All-out warfare". The only difference being that the host decides which maps to play on and that the server is persistent.The new Ground Superiority and Air Superiority modes force the XP to be Moderate, why? By default the game modes have ZERO vehicles in the game, so by adding them, the XP immediately becomes Moderate. I am so confused by this oversight. The "Restrictions" tab which is where choosing the number of vehicles is found shouldn't have anything to do with XP as they don't affect difficulty but vehicle numbers, honestly the only time there should be an XP reduction is when certain scenarios occur such as disabling Stingers and RPGs but allowing Vehicles, is it difficult to set Portal up to recognize such imbalances and apply restrictions accordingly in these scenarios? I don't know. As it stands, Portal quite simply punishes hosts for attempting to host a server that makes up for what "All-out warfare" lacks. It's simple really, I want to host a fully vanilla server that is identical in nature to "All-out warfare servers" with DEFAULT AI, on both Portal Maps and Standard Maps but I can't. Because the XP restriction system is absolutely nonsensical.

@Straatford87 There's been a large group of players in these forums that have been begging to get full xp with AI in either Solo/Co-op AoW or portal with no modifiers except AI game fill since it was taken away one day after the game came out.

@S3SSioN_SoL wrote: For those who wonder why there's no AI in Portal, it's because enabling AI in Portal forces the server to restrict as much XP as possible, this is nonsensical if Modifiers, Restrictions or the Rules Editor is untouched as this would make the Portal server identical to that which is found in "All-out warfare". The only difference being that the host decides which maps to play on and that the server is persistent. The new Ground Superiority and Air Superiority modes force the XP to be Moderate, why? By default the game modes have ZERO vehicles in the game, so by adding them, the XP immediately becomes Moderate. I am so confused by this oversight. The "Restrictions" tab which is where choosing the number of vehicles is found shouldn't have anything to do with XP as they don't affect difficulty but vehicle numbers, honestly the only time there should be an XP reduction is when certain scenarios occur such as disabling Stingers and RPGs but allowing Vehicles, is it difficult to set Portal up to recognize such imbalances and apply restrictions accordingly in these scenarios? I don't know. As it stands, Portal quite simply punishes hosts for attempting to host a server that makes up for what "All-out warfare" lacks. It's simple really, I want to host a fully vanilla server that is identical in nature to "All-out warfare servers" with DEFAULT AI, on both Portal Maps and Standard Maps but I can't. Because the XP restriction system is absolutely nonsensical. AI and the Rules Editor are currently the only options that affect XP gains. So if you notice that changing other Restrictions are impacting XP, that sounds like a bug to me which I'll flag with the team to check out. I've also forwarded the request to enable AI use so the team can review for further options.

@Straatford87 AI is the only way some of us can even play your game due to the number of players in the region(i.e. Australia/Oceania) and/or servers with hackers (Asia and Oceania) add back the XP and weapon unlocks please. It may bring more people back to the game

@Straatford87 Thank you for taking the time to review and forward my request, it is appreciated.

they can't allow you to have even equal progression on AI maps because they gotta sell tier skips.

1.1.0 Portal XP makes no sense. Adjusting Restrictions shouldn't affect XP or AI

13 Replies

LlamaWithKatana
4 years ago
they can't allow you to have even equal progression on AI maps because they gotta sell tier skips.
S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@LlamaWithKatana I don't know whether to laugh or cry because that's exactly what All-out warfare is once 32 players are found to start the game.
Straatford87
DICE Team
4 years ago
@S3SSioN_SoL wrote:

For those who wonder why there's no AI in Portal, it's because enabling AI in Portal forces the server to restrict as much XP as possible, this is nonsensical if Modifiers, Restrictions or the Rules Editor is untouched as this would make the Portal server identical to that which is found in "All-out warfare". The only difference being that the host decides which maps to play on and that the server is persistent.

The new Ground Superiority and Air Superiority modes force the XP to be Moderate, why? By default the game modes have ZERO vehicles in the game, so by adding them, the XP immediately becomes Moderate. I am so confused by this oversight. The "Restrictions" tab which is where choosing the number of vehicles is found shouldn't have anything to do with XP as they don't affect difficulty but vehicle numbers, honestly the only time there should be an XP reduction is when certain scenarios occur such as disabling Stingers and RPGs but allowing Vehicles, is it difficult to set Portal up to recognize such imbalances and apply restrictions accordingly in these scenarios? I don't know. As it stands, Portal quite simply punishes hosts for attempting to host a server that makes up for what "All-out warfare" lacks.

It's simple really, I want to host a fully vanilla server that is identical in nature to "All-out warfare servers" with DEFAULT AI, on both Portal Maps and Standard Maps but I can't. Because the XP restriction system is absolutely nonsensical.

AI and the Rules Editor are currently the only options that affect XP gains. So if you notice that changing other Restrictions are impacting XP, that sounds like a bug to me which I'll flag with the team to check out.

I've also forwarded the request to enable AI use so the team can review for further options.
S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Straatford87 Thank you for taking the time to review and forward my request, it is appreciated.
Grandnightchamp
4 years ago
@Straatford87 Why is there a penalty for rules modifier? I just want to play hardcore and not be punished. Can we plz get an official hardcore server permanently. I want to play but I just can’t do the vanilla. Literally begging y’all at this point!!!!!!!
direct3r
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Straatford87 the options for restricting the xp need to be checked after those restrictions went in...
for example friendly fire on gives less xp which doesn't make any sense, it does not make farming xp easier nor does it give any advantage, even more it's the opposite
DominickB3
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Straatford87 There's been a large group of players in these forums that have been begging to get full xp with AI in either Solo/Co-op AoW or portal with no modifiers except AI game fill since it was taken away one day after the game came out.
SaltyMain
4 years ago
@DominickB3 Probably because the grind sucks and the better weapons are at higher levels.
Humpypants
4 years ago
the lack of hardcore is killing me. Spraying people with 5-7 bullets for them to turn around and kill me in 2-3 is starting to burn me out.
Grandnightchamp
4 years ago
@Straatford87 I can understand the AI penalty but why rules modifier. I just want to play hardcore and not be punished.