After puting many hours into the beta, I came to one conclusion. Specialists suck! They make the game unrealistic in every way, they don't make sense, and this game didn't feel like a battlefield game because of them. I personally feel they should scrap the entire specialist system and bring back the normal battlefield class system.
Yep. The specialists idea is such a bad idea and just ruin the whole Battlefield.
If they wanted to make this specialists game.. thats fine, go for it, experiment, have fun.. but dont call it Battlefield...
Taking the Battlefield name and pulling this specialists poop on it is just wrong..
Hate whats happened here.. this is not Battlefield...
Way to take a beloved franchise and screw it all up, just for your greedy pockets.. for shame..
So so very disappointed about the specialists, hate it.. so disappointing
they had to put them in the game so it wouldnt become stale
I do. I hate them. Like absolutely hate them. And I can already see a bunch of same operators running around. With old classes, people had the same model but it felt good. As uniform is supposed to be same for a team. [Removed by CM]
When anyone says something like 'I have yet to hear a valid, coherent argument' against something, what they mean to say is 'no matter what you say, I will claim it to be invalid and incoherent as my mind is already made up'.
Maybe that isn't the case here, but I struggle to believe that someone can come to these forums and make that claim.
Specialists could (heavy emphasis on could) be like a sub class within a class, however how anyone could claim the current specialist situation is like classes in any way is beyond me. What makes a class? Previously it was gun, gadgets and armour. Specialists can have any gun, any gadget and their armour tells you nothing about them.....
Now, most of the issues with specialists can be amended to make them less of an issue; things like having the same specialists on each team messing up enemy recognition, not knowing who is carrying ammo/medic kits, one specialist being better than the rest. All specialists looking the same as each other. With UI tweaks, faction specific colours, customisation and ongoing tweaks to specialists abilities this will evolve and could be fine, in time.
However, some things may be harder to solve, like how do you encourage the use of ammo/medikits over more fun/solo oriented gadgets I e. RPGs? Classes restricted your choice and even non-team oriented players would likely have to run a beneficial gadget that they may even use once or twice. The beta, not full game I know, had an overabundance of Mackay's and RPGs... Hopefully the full game doesn't settle on to such a meta. Multi-class guns, rather than specialists, would keep to those restrictions forcing players to pick useful teamplay gadgets, or even just restricting the gadgets each type of specialist can take - the latter seemingly a great half way house that could make both sides a bit more content.
I also liked classes as you knew what the enemy player could have, from gun type to gadgets, so knew whether to stay at range or rush in or if your tank was likely to be C4'd or RPG'd. This is gone with Specialists. This removes a tactical element that I liked that they can't get back.
The abilities are the biggest issue for me though, as it stands. Some seem very lacking and then you have wall hacks.... I can already see who most of the community will be playing as and with no restrictions on gun or gadget to help balance them, it is going to be a challenge for Dice. This will be a buff/nerf fest for the foreseeable future and including more specialists down the line will only add to this. Who wouldn't want to be the best specialist, with the best weapon and best gadget?
No. The specialists in the beta did not change my view of the series at all. It still played very much like a Battlefield game to me. Just with new stuff.
I've yet to see a coherent argument FOR specialists. I know that the only reason they are in the game is to sell the battlepass and dice was probably forced to put them in by ea but besides money I haven't heard a single good argument in their favour.
It took me about 5 hours each to get bored of each specialists. I stopped playing the beta 2 days in because of how dreadfully boring the specialists made the game. I suppose they are better for playing solo and not worrying about sticking to a role but that's not what I play battlefield for and other games do it better so I don't really see what the point of this battlefield game is.
