I would emphatically say no! It seems the Dice Devs hate the engineer class for whatever reason.I mean Lis is "ok" right now I guess, although she is locked out of the other rockets and it seems to take forever for her TWO rockets to reload and usually means whatever she was shooting at has more than enough time to heal up before that third rocket becomes available, would be nice if she had maybe 1 or possibly 2 more rockets available with a longer cool down after expending her rockets?The other two specialists are just trash.Boris' robo-turret is a paper-tiger joke and should be replaced by AA mines similar to BF4's AA mines.Crawford's minigun setup does practically little to no damage to vehicles and is basically just a free target for snipers, would like to see an entirely different gadget for him as well. My suggestion would be the proximity mines from BF2142 but I'm all ears if anybody else has a better suggestion.I would also like to see Boris and Crawford's rocket capacity upped to a minimum of 5, right now you can expend all three rockets and even if all three hit the intended target chances are you won't even kill it and then there ya are hunting an ammo box if you wanna get back in the fight and do your job. It's not exactly a fun and rewarding role at the moment.Anyway, that's my thoughts and I welcome yours.

Engineers need some serious work (buffed)

Agree.Lis is an appealing option and fits the role well.Boris/Crawford gadgets manage to be 1) Poor fits for the class 2) Are generally useless outside of a couple hyperspecific scenarios 3) Lack any sort of skill element/growth potential. Upping ammo capacity seems like the easiest short term solution. 4-5 rocket spawn a minimum, with a max capacity of 8. BF4 allowed 7+ with the perk as I recall. Eventually I'd like to see Boris's/Crawford's gadgets reimagined, or outright replaced with things that have some genuine anti-vehicle use and aren't so situational.

@Ironhead841You’re not wrong about the engineer class in general being weak. Their traits are good, but they’ve all been part of the weaker specialists. Making Boris’ turret very strong but only spot and shoot vehicles would be useful. They’d also need to adjust his mastery, adding spots would entice people. The Vulcan is pretty much garbage, but could be salvaged. Better health, smaller hole on the front. If Dozer can have a shield and run around, only killable from the side or rear, why not Crawford’s Vulcan? I have little interest in playing that class for the reasons being stated here.

I would give Lis missiles their previous agility back. Keep the range where it is.The other engineers are just not worth playing. I would move Irish to Engineer. At least you would have more then just Lis on the map

@ragnarok013 I would think Crawford and Irish swapping "classes" as @ElliotLH suggested would be a lot more practical option than trying to further shoe-horn Crawford into a role he clearly isn't suited for.I would like to see their traits completely reworked/altered personally with AA or proximity mines if I had any say in the matter as I said before.

Engineers in a good place right now?

68 Replies

Psubond
Legend
3 years ago
Engineers need some serious work (buffed)
AngrySquid270
3 years ago
Agree.
Lis is an appealing option and fits the role well.
Boris/Crawford gadgets manage to be 1) Poor fits for the class 2) Are generally useless outside of a couple hyperspecific scenarios 3) Lack any sort of skill element/growth potential.
Upping ammo capacity seems like the easiest short term solution. 4-5 rocket spawn a minimum, with a max capacity of 8. BF4 allowed 7+ with the perk as I recall.
Eventually I'd like to see Boris's/Crawford's gadgets reimagined, or outright replaced with things that have some genuine anti-vehicle use and aren't so situational.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@Ironhead841You’re not wrong about the engineer class in general being weak. Their traits are good, but they’ve all been part of the weaker specialists. Making Boris’ turret very strong but only spot and shoot vehicles would be useful. They’d also need to adjust his mastery, adding spots would entice people. The Vulcan is pretty much garbage, but could be salvaged. Better health, smaller hole on the front. If Dozer can have a shield and run around, only killable from the side or rear, why not Crawford’s Vulcan? I have little interest in playing that class for the reasons being stated here.
CodaciousMan
3 years ago
I think Lis is balanced but the other engineers should be buffed.
The problem is rockets are weak. Rockets have many counters and do little damage. Engineers need more ammo or more damage.
I think fewer rockets with more damage is the better option. Having stronger rockets will feel more impactful to players and be more fun IMO. Two rockets per engineer with kill potential would be perfect. Each rocket should do around 50% to 60% health to heavy tanks in one hit. If the time to kill is unfair then I could see three rockets with like 49% damage on each, that way the third is almost a guaranteed kill.
My problem with more rockets is the reload time is very long and kinda boring, to be honest. I would rather spend more time shooting than reloading. I also feel very small when using rockets in this game, just something about the small damage they do feels dull and uninteresting.
and yeah the Boris turret is garbage... not even sure what purpose it serves anymore, might as well be a spot camera with no gun.
Padding_Ur_Stat
3 years ago
I would give Lis missiles their previous agility back. Keep the range where it is.
The other engineers are just not worth playing. I would move Irish to Engineer. At least you would have more then just Lis on the map
Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
@ATFGunr
IF they could make Boris' turret focus on just vehicles like that it might be ok, I guess, me personally I would just prefer the AA mines.
I just don't think Crawford's minigun is viable as an anti-vehicle trait though as it just leaves you too exposed.
Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
@CodaciousMan
I don't mind the reload times for the other engineers, Lis' reload time just takes way too long though.
Stronger rockets or more rockets either way would work, me personally I don't mind playing a little peek-a-boo with a tank and having to land quite a few shots on them, I would opt for more rockets myself.
I agree though that Boris' Turret and Crawford's minigun aren't really viable anti-vehicle traits.
Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
@Padding_Ur_Stats
I don't mind the range or agility nerf as much as her long reload times, the other engineers need some love though.
RayD_O1
Hero
3 years ago
@Ironhead841
Good post, I agree with all your points and I definitely think that there needs to be an increase in the rocket capacity, 3 just doesn't cut it.!
Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@Padding_Ur_Stats Is this an American thing?

There's no shortage of Boris players in Australia.

On Flashpoint 64 24/7 server there's hardly any Lis or Crawford players. Most engineers have switched over to Boris and are using M5 or Javelin.

I run the Javelin. It's noob friendly and does 44 damage per shot without soflam on tanks.

Sounds like just another infantry anti vehicle winge thread to me.