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moose004
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago

Getting frustrated trying to win gunfights (dying too much)

Hey gang...so I've been playing Battlefield since BF4 (got BF3 later) and am sort of enjoying BF2042 so far...some of the game I like and some I don't, with bugs and some really mind-boggling design decisions, but it is what it is, I bought it, and I'm enjoying it enough to keep playing for now.

The problem I'm running into is just losing about 95% of the gunfights I ever get into.  I am mainly using the M5A3 or (more often) the LCMG with Angel or Falck because I prefer to play a support role.  I am not a l33t FPS player by any means...I'm 55, have never had fast twitch reflexes, but I like to think I'm not THIS bad.  Fact is, though, I'm getting constantly wrecked.  It feels like I'm getting a little of that old BFV "it takes 5 hits for me to kill somebody but I die in one hit" thing with the hitreg, but I think my bigger issue is a lack of visibility with some of the darker maps (like when the storms roll in) and just getting seen before I see other people.  The other guy(s) get the drop on me almost always and I basically die instantly.  Try to hide, I get spotted and die.  Try to move out to do a revive or push an objective, I get sniped or somebody with that crazy PP-29 nails me.  It's getting frustrating because my old support/medic roles from BF1/BFV don't seem to be nearly as useful here, with fewer points, nobody waiting for revives, nobody actually reviving me when I get killed, a near total lack of team play due to all the broken/missing teamplay tools (no voice chat, no platoons, limited squad functionality, etc.)...yeah.  Feels like I'm playing 1v64 sometimes and I'm not good enough to pull that off.

Anybody got any tips to help out with this?  Gun attachments, specific BF2042 tactics that work, ways to make the LCMG more accurate or another gun to try out once I get some more levels (I'm level 14)?  Thanks.

40 Replies

  • moose004's avatar
    moose004
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago
    @ATFGunr Holy thread necro, Batman, wow!

    I haven't played much for probably six months or so, and not at all in the past two or three aside from maybe once. I might get back into it but I just kind of gave up with the way things were. They're making moves that might bring me back, though. We'll see.
  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @BigShottt I disagree with being to old to be competitive. Sure, you’re not going to have the same reflexes as 20 year olds or younger, but maybe you never did in the first place? I’m not directing that at you, just like a self reflection for anyone. Know your strengths and weaknesses and work off of that. YouTubers and Twitch streamers always give advice to play ultra aggressive, but that’s because they’re entertaining an audience and play the game all day long. That was a long way of saying find a style that suits you.

    Positioning is king. Nothing is more important than that. Put yourself in winning position and you’ll be rewarded for it. You don’t need amazing sim or anything. I don’t particularly have the best recoil control, because I play low sensitivity, so I set up my guns to compensate for that. I use easy to handle guns.

    You’re going to have bad games. There’s quite a bit of luck with your team. If the team is unable to put pressure on the enemy, it can feel like you’re constantly in a 1vX situation. Doesn’t matter how good you are.

    Play to survive. Try playing for a while without just trying to get kills. See how long you can stay alive. If you exchange fire with someone and neither of you died, rotate, and heal up. Once you’re able to survive better, start working on getting kills. So it takes you longer to go 5-1 than others, who cares?

    I just don’t like hearing someone feel defeated. I hate that feeling myself more than anything.
  • BigShottt's avatar
    BigShottt
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @RaginSamThanks, but honestly, I don't feel defeated at all. To me, BF and COD are just mindless fun.

    I don't transpose any of my gaming related experiences (whether they be good ones or bad) onto my feelings of self-worth. Besides, I spent plenty of years passed where I was on top of the gaming leader boards, winning my fair share of tournaments and basically kickin' it :-)

    These days I actually enjoy my time gaming much more than I did back then, now that I just play for fun and don't take it seriously, because my online friendships have vastly improved over those days since now my friends and I play alongside each other on the same team against the bots, instead of against each other, as it used to be a long time ago.

    I love PvE, as I have found it to be a MUCH healthier lifestyle and allows me to have more fun now than I used to when I was a PvP'er.


  • @tom_looken wrote:

    @KRZYT0K wrote:
    @AOD_moose004Devs this days turns their games in something that most of us escape from in to the games . Hard work .Sweaty 12h runs on gfuel living it to win gunfights . And the magic behind this is SBMM It isolate u from players lower skill than you are Aloe u to play sweats only which just ripping off games from entertainment aspect . I found this game brings fun only when I play offline with bots . Yee Yee some of u gonna say get skill . Well I play games like this for two decades I know what my skill is . And I know what this game isn't , obviously a entertainment


    Yeh ikr!!

    I was on page 2 nodding my head before I realised because hit reg, netcode and sluggish server performance were all present during my playtime yesterday.

    Why on earth do people bring 10 month old threads back to life?

  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @BigShottt That’s awesome. I’ve been getting into flying simulators and drones more again lately. It really is nice not worrying about being competitive or feeling wronged by hit reg or whatever. Glad to hear you’re enjoying gaming more than ever!
  • BigShottt's avatar
    BigShottt
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @RaginSamBig time into both MSFS and X-Plane myself! have been for around 30 years now. I use a Honeycomb setup for that. Back in the day I used to play some Falcon 4.0 but that was ages ago. I also enjoy some open world car games.

    I've also recently gotten into VR, which was sort of mind-blowing :-).


  • @RaginSam wrote:
    @BigShotttI disagree with being to old to be competitive. Sure, you’re not going to have the same reflexes as 20 year olds or younger, but maybe you never did in the first place? I’m not directing that at you, just like a self reflection for anyone. Know your strengths and weaknesses and work off of that. YouTubers and Twitch streamers always give advice to play ultra aggressive, but that’s because they’re entertaining an audience and play the game all day long. That was a long way of saying find a style that suits you.

    Positioning is king. Nothing is more important than that. Put yourself in winning position and you’ll be rewarded for it. You don’t need amazing sim or anything. I don’t particularly have the best recoil control, because I play low sensitivity, so I set up my guns to compensate for that. I use easy to handle guns.

    You’re going to have bad games. There’s quite a bit of luck with your team. If the team is unable to put pressure on the enemy, it can feel like you’re constantly in a 1vX situation. Doesn’t matter how good you are.

    Play to survive. Try playing for a while without just trying to get kills. See how long you can stay alive. If you exchange fire with someone and neither of you died, rotate, and heal up. Once you’re able to survive better, start working on getting kills. So it takes you longer to go 5-1 than others, who cares?

    I just don’t like hearing someone feel defeated. I hate that feeling myself more than anything.

    Good advice. 

    I mainly use the NTW 50 and often play just like that.

    I get an immense amount of satisfaction surviving for long periods of the round without dying. Running for cover and basically hiding is essential against most players who are using SMGs and ARs. They will easily kill me if I stick around.

    Its why I conquest, every round I can create my own personal 'single-player' adventure. It's like I'm playing Far Cry 2!

  • I feel the exact same way you do, so you’re not alone. I’m 45, been playing video games since the Atari. I really enjoy playing BF2042, but the same happens with me. I try and move the map slowly and strategically, get instakilled. Try to move more, get instakilled. I often get the drop on another play, start shooting and they instantly turn around and smoke me. It’s incredibly frustrating to lose most gun battles even when I have first shot.

  • GrizzGolf's avatar
    GrizzGolf
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    Though this is from September Ill jump in and add I feel like its been off again in most gun battles as of late 

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