Hello,The purpose of this forum post will be to outline the biggest issues/priorities for improvement for BF2042.I've played about 20 hours of content creator preview events, 43 hours on the beta and 10 hours so far of full release (73h total).I'm a diehard fan of the franchise and really wanna see this become the best game yet. The game is already fun in it's good moments but with a few fixes it could be amazing.Fixes (in order of priority)1. PerformanceThere is huge amount of people who can't even play the game due to performance limitations and especially during COVID shortages, it's harder than ever to just upgrade your system.2. Netcode/HitregThe hitreg feels extremely inconsistent with both infantry and vehicles. It seems to work when both parties are standing still. A similar thing happens when gunning in an attack helicopter. The reg works much better without a pilot or if the pilot lets go of their controls entirely.3. Gunplay (and not as significantly, movement)Compared to the beta, weapons have much more recoil (first and second shots especially?) and more significantly, they have more spread. The slide also feels shorter and overall less "fluid".In my opinion, the beta absolutely perfected both of these aspects. With a faster paced shooter such as 2042, you need to have accurate gunplay. Either revert the gunplay (and maybe the sliding) back to how it was in the beta, or at least significantly reduce the spread on the assault rifles. Currently SMGs have replaced ARs at every range.4. Vehicle Changes- Russian attack heli pilot 30mm cannon is OP- Jets are extremely weak- Jet physics feel very heavy. It feels like the jet wants to drop down into the ground and aiming/maneuvering it feels sluggish. I think a mix of BF1 + BF4 physics would be amazing.- Heli physics are very floaty and the A/D input needs to be less twitchy to allow for more fine tuned aiming.- Tanks have a slow turret speed and very strong shell. I can see a long range tank sniping meta (similar to bfv) developing but we'll have to see.- We NEED separate keybinds for helicopters and jets. Many pilots use a completely different control scheme in helis that doesn't work with jets.These are just a few changes I had in mind. I don't think there's any argument for both 1 and 2 but I'm open to conversation.

That's exactly what I think about the game! The worst are the drops in performance. even on a 2080ti I have to set everything to low so I can play with stable 60-80 fps.all frostbite engines games i played had 120+ stable fps ! hope ea fix this asap. I think it's cheeky that Dice has not yet said a word about this problem, although a lot of people also have this problem

@TwitchTV-SilkGenerally agreed, except for:1. The slide, which was and is dumb. There is not any real-world application for a slide except for cover-to-cover moves. Shooting and sliding should be completely worthless in this game because accuracy would be trash.2. Jets do have problems, but they do not need to be stronger vs. Infantry. I know that is your style, but unless we see an attack jet, multi-roles should only be anti-vehicle by design… if a player is in the open and the shots are good, sure, but there should not be any Me Bf-109 cannon rounds in this game…3. Jets should be "heavy" at slower speeds and turns… since they are heavy and inertia is a thing. I do think the control surfaces should be more effective / responsive for initiating maneuvers however.4. Tank sniping might be a thing, but with current Infantry movement speed, everyone can carry rockets, the terrible DPS of the secondary, and the gimped turret traverse and elevation… who cares? If anything, tanks need a small buff.5. Completely agreed on keybinds and surprised you didn’t mention the rear-look preventing maneuvering input bug / oversight… although, if you quick peek, it’s limited dead time.

@TwitchTV-Silk I'd also like to see equipment become exclusive to groups/types of specialists, kind of like what Ubisoft's Rainbow 6 Siege does. For example, in R6 not all "operators" have access to frag grenades, this makes it so that matches aren't filled with frags and helps the player prioritize targets.In BF2042, it can get pretty chaotic when the majority of players are running around with AT and it can be annoying when nobody has ammo crates or medical crates. This change will help remedy these issues.

I think it's a wonderful thing that jetts are very bad. The game hasn't been this enjoyable in years. Personally I haven't had nearly as many issues with hit reg as you claim my shots land just fine. This for me atleast has been one of the most smooth releases the franchise has seen in years we should really be applauding these developers before we shame them for a "bad" product. You should have been around for like any other release in battlefield. But for balance changes I will say. Vehicles.JettsKeep jetts nerfed too the floor. It's just to oppressive of a vehicle if left unchecked nothing can really counter it besides other jetts in previous titles. (Maybe aa tanks if the Jett pilot isn't that good). I would even go as far as to say, you should nerf the jetts ability to like "stealth lock on" why I say this is because personally when a Jett locks onto me by the time I found out if they are close enough the missle has already hit me. Giving me a bit more warning would be nice and sometimes my flares just don't work against their rockets period which I'm sure is a bug I hope. The only reason they need to stay this way is because sure they are fun to go 100+ and 0 deaths in but doesn't that say something... the receiving end of these being a strong utility is just honestly not fun at all and leaves little to no counter play. Atleast if a heli is op, there is hacking, infantry AA, AA tank ( which we can't really kill that at all tbh) a Jett, and sometimes tanks depending on where they are at lol. But jetts on the other hand.. their counter play becomes don't fly too close to the AA tank, and if there isn't another Jett pilot of similar caliber you kinda just get clipped until the God Jett pilot gets bored or goes 140-0. It's not good for the longevity of the game. After the beta I went to battlefield 3 (jetts are more weak in this version btw) and the game was virtually unplayable. The moment your spotted in a helicopter you die in 1 strafe 95% of the time without a single ounce of counter play besides ecn jamming to smoke yourself then pray your don't get 1 strafed but let's all be real here the second strafe comes so fast your gonna die anyways. And if you wanna play infantry and they have the best Jett player you just get completely destroyed by helicopters tanks and anything, because everything that moves on your team gets melted by a Jett. TL:DR don't ever buffs jetts if anything nerf them if you want a larger community long term Attack helicoptersI think besides the Russian 30mm on pilot they are actually balanced I have been gunned down in squads in transport choppers many times it takes more damage kills me faster and moves as fast as me if not faster. The only balance change I think they need is to possibly make not 100% on this, would be to move a bit faster. Now I wanna be specific here by moving faster I do not mean being able to move faster sideways to do donuts better like old school bad co 2 I mean forward movement to be able to run away or avoid situations. Also they have to be slower and less maneuverable then scouts so a slight increase in forward movement. Transport helisHonestly pretty good it takes team work to make this dream work but boy does it work. Scout helis Kinda busted the 20mm are a little op and I agree with maybe making the rocket pods more vehicle oriented and moving the power over to the mini guns for a more skill based experience. I think by far this is the strongest air vehicle being so fast It can escape a lot of situations along with the versatility of the rest of the weapons. It's only really weak against AA tanks which makes sense. InfantryAssault riflesI really think if you wanted to have an increase time to kill you should have lowered the damage and kept the accuracy. I also agree with the beta being significantly more satisfying for the gun play. Now ima bring up apex for a second. Personally apex legends is only good because the gun play it feels much more skill based there really isn't a lot of luck involved and if your really good and yoy have moment while hitting your shots it feels fantastic. This game had elements of that in the beta but with the current iteration of assault rifles just feels awkward and a smg is just superior. Smgs Should be less effective at range and maybe very slight more effective close for an exchange of power I would be careful about buffing it tho. SnipersMy hit reg has been fine and it felt really good for the small time ive played on it Personally haven't played enough infantry to give a fair review on anything else. TanksAlthough I haven't played in them and I don't know if they are really over powered but shooting them with AT missiles and being a chopper or infantry it just feels like they are a little hard to kill and could take a bit more then 20 damage per rpg. Now I can understand why you wouldn't nerf tanks given the player count increase might make the obsolete but it does feel a bit difficult at times to remove an AA tank or even a regular tank from one of the conquest flags outside deployment. Net code, stability, performanceI wanna give any developer a shout out as this has been a release that passes with flying colors compared to previous titles. If your track record says anything about the future of this game I have 0 doubt in my mind that within a pretty reasonable amount of time you should have a majority of performance problems and optimization down. Hopefully it's not like mantling in bf3 which took a long time to fix. I just wanted to take another moment to appreciate just how good of a job the developers have done. Especially given the restrictions with covid etc this has been a fantastic early access. I honestly can't wait for the first couple stability and optimization patches to boost frame rate a bit and this is gonna be one phenomenal game with incredible replay ability. I'm also blown away by just how great the portal gameplay is I really was afraid that it would be done like many other franchises and just slop together an "old school" game for some cash. But it really feels and plays like the old titles respectively. If there is one criticism I can give it, sometimes it can be slightly inconsistent but nothing that completely ruins the game or would consider making me refund. If your thinking about buying battlefield and maybe past titles have let you down, I would give this atleast a 5$ ea pass and take the 10 hour free trial. It's such a fantastic game and again it still has yet to have optimization patches, bug fixes etc. Keep up the good work it's amazing.

I had to get a refund. I couldn't even get passed the press A to begin page. Severely disappointed. Every battlefield EA seems overwhelmed and surprised at the volume of people trying to play. You can see the amount of preorders? You should've seen this coming? Kind of unreal honestly. Hated bf1 and bf5.. been waiting on a modern bf for like 6 years now and we finally get one and it's like this? Man.. how disheartening. EA if you're listening, please don't make another bf. My Fandom can't take the disappointment. Just fix this one and keep adding to it. Thank you.

Most important changes/fixes for BF2042 (73h played so far).

73 Replies

Kehlenfetzer198
4 years ago
That's exactly what I think about the game!
The worst are the drops in performance. even on a 2080ti I have to set everything to low so I can play with stable 60-80 fps.
all frostbite engines games i played had 120+ stable fps ! hope ea fix this asap.
I think it's cheeky that Dice has not yet said a word about this problem, although a lot of people also have this problem
gopnikandrpeppe
4 years ago
@TwitchTV-Silk I'd also like to see equipment become exclusive to groups/types of specialists, kind of like what Ubisoft's Rainbow 6 Siege does. For example, in R6 not all "operators" have access to frag grenades, this makes it so that matches aren't filled with frags and helps the player prioritize targets.

In BF2042, it can get pretty chaotic when the majority of players are running around with AT and it can be annoying when nobody has ammo crates or medical crates. This change will help remedy these issues.
TwitchTV-Silk
4 years ago
I'd be interested in seeing stuff like this tested later on but for now I think all focus should be on performance and hitreg.
carsono311
4 years ago
@TwitchTV-SilkGenerally agreed, except for:

1. The slide, which was and is dumb. There is not any real-world application for a slide except for cover-to-cover moves. Shooting and sliding should be completely worthless in this game because accuracy would be trash.

2. Jets do have problems, but they do not need to be stronger vs. Infantry. I know that is your style, but unless we see an attack jet, multi-roles should only be anti-vehicle by design… if a player is in the open and the shots are good, sure, but there should not be any Me Bf-109 cannon rounds in this game…

3. Jets should be "heavy" at slower speeds and turns… since they are heavy and inertia is a thing. I do think the control surfaces should be more effective / responsive for initiating maneuvers however.

4. Tank sniping might be a thing, but with current Infantry movement speed, everyone can carry rockets, the terrible DPS of the secondary, and the gimped turret traverse and elevation… who cares? If anything, tanks need a small buff.

5. Completely agreed on keybinds and surprised you didn’t mention the rear-look preventing maneuvering input bug / oversight… although, if you quick peek, it’s limited dead time.
mazaratii22
4 years ago
@TwitchTV-Silk I'm glad you brought this up. Xbox "one" currently is dang near unplayable, it's like every 5 to 10 seconds there is a lag tick. I have played with settings and have excellent ping. The gunplay was definitely way better in beta, the recoil now is dang near uncontrollable until your on bullet #6 using a AR on console. Even burst is all over the place. The jets feel like a Arcade game.
AerialDominanc1
4 years ago
Fantastic list agree completely ESPECIALLY with the jet physics being garbage
I do want to add one more quick thing which i think needs mentioning and that is the overall LACK of progression and vehicle customization jets got 2 terrible weapons and a cannon that shoots slower and does more damage and thats literally it. This shows an extreme lack of content and i can only imagine they will be drip feeding us more customization in the future? at least i would hope they will because the amount of customization we currently have is what i expected in BETA
Landonglover
4 years ago
I had to get a refund. I couldn't even get passed the press A to begin page. Severely disappointed. Every battlefield EA seems overwhelmed and surprised at the volume of people trying to play. You can see the amount of preorders? You should've seen this coming? Kind of unreal honestly. Hated bf1 and bf5.. been waiting on a modern bf for like 6 years now and we finally get one and it's like this? Man.. how disheartening. EA if you're listening, please don't make another bf. My Fandom can't take the disappointment. Just fix this one and keep adding to it. Thank you.
Goinggrey123
4 years ago
@TwitchTV-Silk Come on, we all know you havent put a boot on the ground in a BF game since BF3 (when you had to run for a jet/heli).

Anyways, i agree with your post lol
JodiLosCules
4 years ago
Im 100% agree with Silk. Jet are very useless and weird to fly
Kantusx
4 years ago
I think it's a wonderful thing that jetts are very bad. The game hasn't been this enjoyable in years. Personally I haven't had nearly as many issues with hit reg as you claim my shots land just fine. This for me atleast has been one of the most smooth releases the franchise has seen in years we should really be applauding these developers before we shame them for a "bad" product. You should have been around for like any other release in battlefield. But for balance changes I will say.

Vehicles.
Jetts
Keep jetts nerfed too the floor. It's just to oppressive of a vehicle if left unchecked nothing can really counter it besides other jetts in previous titles. (Maybe aa tanks if the Jett pilot isn't that good). I would even go as far as to say, you should nerf the jetts ability to like "stealth lock on" why I say this is because personally when a Jett locks onto me by the time I found out if they are close enough the missle has already hit me. Giving me a bit more warning would be nice and sometimes my flares just don't work against their rockets period which I'm sure is a bug I hope. The only reason they need to stay this way is because sure they are fun to go 100+ and 0 deaths in but doesn't that say something... the receiving end of these being a strong utility is just honestly not fun at all and leaves little to no counter play. Atleast if a heli is op, there is hacking, infantry AA, AA tank ( which we can't really kill that at all tbh) a Jett, and sometimes tanks depending on where they are at lol. But jetts on the other hand.. their counter play becomes don't fly too close to the AA tank, and if there isn't another Jett pilot of similar caliber you kinda just get clipped until the God Jett pilot gets bored or goes 140-0. It's not good for the longevity of the game. After the beta I went to battlefield 3 (jetts are more weak in this version btw) and the game was virtually unplayable. The moment your spotted in a helicopter you die in 1 strafe 95% of the time without a single ounce of counter play besides ecn jamming to smoke yourself then pray your don't get 1 strafed but let's all be real here the second strafe comes so fast your gonna die anyways. And if you wanna play infantry and they have the best Jett player you just get completely destroyed by helicopters tanks and anything, because everything that moves on your team gets melted by a Jett.

TL:DR don't ever buffs jetts if anything nerf them if you want a larger community long term

Attack helicopters
I think besides the Russian 30mm on pilot they are actually balanced I have been gunned down in squads in transport choppers many times it takes more damage kills me faster and moves as fast as me if not faster. The only balance change I think they need is to possibly make not 100% on this, would be to move a bit faster. Now I wanna be specific here by moving faster I do not mean being able to move faster sideways to do donuts better like old school bad co 2 I mean forward movement to be able to run away or avoid situations. Also they have to be slower and less maneuverable then scouts so a slight increase in forward movement.

Transport helis
Honestly pretty good it takes team work to make this dream work but boy does it work.

Scout helis
Kinda busted the 20mm are a little op and I agree with maybe making the rocket pods more vehicle oriented and moving the power over to the mini guns for a more skill based experience. I think by far this is the strongest air vehicle being so fast It can escape a lot of situations along with the versatility of the rest of the weapons. It's only really weak against AA tanks which makes sense.

Infantry
Assault rifles
I really think if you wanted to have an increase time to kill you should have lowered the damage and kept the accuracy. I also agree with the beta being significantly more satisfying for the gun play. Now ima bring up apex for a second. Personally apex legends is only good because the gun play it feels much more skill based there really isn't a lot of luck involved and if your really good and yoy have moment while hitting your shots it feels fantastic. This game had elements of that in the beta but with the current iteration of assault rifles just feels awkward and a smg is just superior.

Smgs
Should be less effective at range and maybe very slight more effective close for an exchange of power I would be careful about buffing it tho.

Snipers
My hit reg has been fine and it felt really good for the small time ive played on it
Personally haven't played enough infantry to give a fair review on anything else.

Tanks
Although I haven't played in them and I don't know if they are really over powered but shooting them with AT missiles and being a chopper or infantry it just feels like they are a little hard to kill and could take a bit more then 20 damage per rpg. Now I can understand why you wouldn't nerf tanks given the player count increase might make the obsolete but it does feel a bit difficult at times to remove an AA tank or even a regular tank from one of the conquest flags outside deployment.

Net code, stability, performance
I wanna give any developer a shout out as this has been a release that passes with flying colors compared to previous titles. If your track record says anything about the future of this game I have 0 doubt in my mind that within a pretty reasonable amount of time you should have a majority of performance problems and optimization down. Hopefully it's not like mantling in bf3 which took a long time to fix.

I just wanted to take another moment to appreciate just how good of a job the developers have done. Especially given the restrictions with covid etc this has been a fantastic early access. I honestly can't wait for the first couple stability and optimization patches to boost frame rate a bit and this is gonna be one phenomenal game with incredible replay ability. I'm also blown away by just how great the portal gameplay is I really was afraid that it would be done like many other franchises and just slop together an "old school" game for some cash. But it really feels and plays like the old titles respectively. If there is one criticism I can give it, sometimes it can be slightly inconsistent but nothing that completely ruins the game or would consider making me refund. If your thinking about buying battlefield and maybe past titles have let you down, I would give this atleast a 5$ ea pass and take the 10 hour free trial. It's such a fantastic game and again it still has yet to have optimization patches, bug fixes etc. Keep up the good work it's amazing.