Aim Assist for Consol is really a big slap in face to PC users , PC users for years have been asking for a rock solid Anti Cheat for BF games and what does EA do they actually add Aim Assist cheat to BF .
Aim Assist has no Vertical recoil!
also it tracks the player you are shooting at smooth as butter making it virtually impossible to miss your target almost like a weaker Aimbot !
@OneDeadEye4 wrote:Aim Assist for Consol is really a big slap in face to PC users , PC users for years have been asking for a rock solid Anti Cheat for BF games and what does EA do they actually add Aim Assist cheat to BF .
Aim Assist has no Vertical recoil!
also it tracks the player you are shooting at smooth as butter making it virtually impossible to miss your target almost like a weaker Aimbot !
I disagree with everything you said except that we have been asking for anti-cheat. Everything else....just no.
@OneDeadEye4 wrote:
https://youtu.be/254R30gvetM
You can see for yourself !
Hahahahaha ok...I wouldn't take that video to mean that aim assist is aimbot. Skilled players can do that believe it or not.
@Echo6Echo wrote:
@OneDeadEye4 wrote:
https://youtu.be/254R30gvetM
You can see for yourself !Hahahahaha ok...I wouldn't take that video to mean that aim assist is aimbot. Skilled players can do that believe it or not.
That video is pretty damning. He says he is even surprised by how easily he is able to acquire & track enemies, which also touches on the TTK aspect as well. Compile that with most Consoles being on WiFi and most (good) PCs hardwired, plus the performance differences between the machines, it’s clear that consoles are kinda lagging behind and need assists to compensate. However, is it a good idea to force console players to play at a higher level/force PC players to play at a handicapped level? If the differences between inputs/platforms could be mitigated more, we would see more consistent play. I do think the issues are greater than “Aim Assist”, there are just many variables that are causing inconsistencies. And we are all frustrated because nothing ever makes sense!
@ReBeLActual777 Net code /= aim assist...
AA is very weak
I feel we're looking at the wrong thing.
DIce has always had crap servers, net code, and lag comp.
In my experience, most people get killed by lag rather than aim assist or simply a better player. I am constantly being killed in 2 shots or less. While it seems to take me 5 shots at least to kill. so I usually die first. I'm on console, and I'm not the best, but it feels like aim assist works better against some than others. I feel this is due to latency.
@OneDeadEye4 wrote:Aim Assist for Consol is really a big slap in face to PC users , PC users for years have been asking for a rock solid Anti Cheat for BF games and what does EA do they actually add Aim Assist cheat to BF .
Aim Assist has no Vertical recoil!
also it tracks the player you are shooting at smooth as butter making it virtually impossible to miss your target almost like a weaker Aimbot !
No vertical recoil? How do you think you’re getting headshot? They start at your junk and the recoil puts bullets in your body until it takes the top of your head off. Aim assist doesn’t track you, I don’t care what video you’re watching on YouTube.
@ATFGunr wrote:
@RayD_O1Thanks. In short form I’m saying that blaming each other distracts from the source of the problems, Dice. Maybe servers can’t handle crossplay. Maybe trying to get a game that can recognize inputs from three entirely different systems didn’t work. Maybe some consoles are using third party peripherals or maybe some PC players are hacking. The reality is we don’t know, so shouldn’t be hammering each other. The concept itself is applicable to a wider arena than just gaming, but it’s in gaming too.
Totally agree there are far too many accusations flying around in posts recently.
As you rightly say it could be any one of the issues you mention, or a combination, but you are right we just don't know so all this daily attacking each other needs to stop.
I've played all matches since yesterday with crossplay turned off. Improvement of gameplay for me is measured in miles. I'm frequently back in the top three for kills, and can often get three to four enemies in 30 rounds. The only match that has come close to feeling like one against console players, was the opening of my last game. The bots suddenly went superpowered, taking a ton of damage, dishing a ton out in a second, and perfect aim. That felt exactly like playing against the consolers in crossplay. That instantaneous death.
Now if just more PC players would turn off crossplay, matches would be more frequented. On the other hand I wish DICE would drop the starting limit for matches. Technically it should only take one player to start a match as the rest are filled with bots like solo.
But if console players get 25% less recoil and bullet spread, plus aim assist. That's kind of wack.
Sadly if more PC players turned off crossplay there would be more matches around. You can see the difference when looking for Portal servers between having it off and having it on. I can get a string of matches and then suddenly everyone disappears. Made worse by questionable things happening in the last round that kind of ruined the experience (in this case a dodgy player surviving aircraft 25mm fire, hitting me with a missile, finally dying, getting revived conveniently behind something, instantly locking on at point blank despite this not being quick or easy due to the slightest of movements, and then hitting me through clearly deployed flares for a kill), and then you don't get another match to make up for it.
For some reason there's no PS5 userbase with crossplay off.
Either the playerbase is too small to fill half a dozen servers (Very hard to believe) especially in Europe!
Or the console playbase is being used to prop up the PC base!
I came in this topic expecting to see exaggerations on both sides and I was not disappointed.
the fact you PC guys are looking at HS percentages proves you have no idea how AA works.
it is not some HS aim bot.
for every stat the PC guys find proving their point, the console guys do the same.
Call of Duty legal aimbot.
Finding the balance on that. It’s an interesting thing, because I wish it was a linear spectrum. You can see that a very highly skilled player on mouse and keyboard is fantastic compared to controller. Everybody else on a mouse and keyboard seems to be at a disadvantage statistically, is what we see.
source:
Infinity Ward answers Modern Warfare II questions | VentureBeat
they know about this and you cant turn off crossplay on PC for Warzone and Ground War.
Same happened on warzone now all you see are the top players playing with controller because the aim assist is so ridiculous.
There was nothing wrong with the aim assist they just didnt want to say they wanted more.
Even hip firing has lashings of aim assist looool, you can keep this junk console boys its all yours
@Ne0tax wrote:Call of Duty legal aimbot.
Finding the balance on that. It’s an interesting thing, because I wish it was a linear spectrum. You can see that a very highly skilled player on mouse and keyboard is fantastic compared to controller. Everybody else on a mouse and keyboard seems to be at a disadvantage statistically, is what we see.
source:
Infinity Ward answers Modern Warfare II questions | VentureBeat
they know about this and you cant turn off crossplay on PC for Warzone and Ground War.
Thanks for sharing the developer interview @Ne0tax.
It's amazing to hear game developers admit controller vs mouse statistics show that unless you're Stodeh with a mouse, you're going to get stomped on by controller players using aim assist and recoil reduction.
At least he was honest and admitted 'leveling the playing field' is unfair for mouse players according to their own internal statistics.
