Revert ammo count change for underbarrel GL/smoke/incendiary (not SPH)

Hi.

This was not listed in the changelog (only for the other grenades and launchers etc), but the ammo count for underbarrel 40mm GL / incendiary / smoke got reduced. Doing this because of 1 "small" map is not really ideal and good gameplay design, it doesnt fit with the other maps which are mostly big.

Only 1 is not suitable for the big maps of Battlefield (versus CoD) and it has never been that low even in the past with Operation Metro / Locker. Thse kinds of maps will always get spam anyways - especially from the much more powerful SPH and XM which are much more useful anyways. Thats what I see now.

We cant even do smart smoke shots and rush forward properly now because of too little ammo, like why?

Revert please.

** EDIT November 16th; **

-> SUGGESTION FOR SHARED AMMO POOL!

Examples if you equip all types:

- Previously you had 3 of each for a total of 9.

- Currently you have 1 of each for a total of 3.

- New suggestion: shared ammo pool of maximum 5 total (or at least 3 shared).

That means if you fire 3 HE, you have only 2 smokes or 2 incendiary left or vice versa.

THAT sounds like a good compromise and good balance, right? Its also similar to previous BF games ie. BC2 had 4 in ammo, BF2 (2005) had 5.

discussion

36 Replies

UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@JWGrasli Agreed, this was uncalled for.
Dutchie-Mario
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
Wonder why this was.needed, didn't see a well commented "dev note", leaves the underbarrel useless.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@Dutchie-Mario
I would not be surprised if the change for the SPH somehow affected the underbarrel launchers too.
Cause there is no reason to nerf the smoke variety
flcrm
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
Nerf maniacs continue to increase the amount of uselessness in the game.
UP_Plumber
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@UP_HawxxeyeAP too. I actually agree to nerf HE and Fire launchers because they got spammy even on bigger maps.

But smoke and AP should've stayed at max 3 ammo to help players move around and fight vehicles.
JWGrasli
New Adventurer
3 years ago
Yup, Dice you must revert this. Totally unneeded change for ALL underbarrel ammo types and in a game like BF "1" max ammo dosent fit in. Has never been this low in BF games before.
Revert back to previous values.
If anything disable firing un-zoomed instead making zooming mandatory --> harder to use.
BF has always been like that with Mr Battlefield's saying in the past: easy to learn but hard to master.
NekoNoShingekiV
New Traveler
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber No, in my opinion, the under-barrel grenade is not much of a problem because of APS and SDS, as well as the TGM and so on. SPAM is also defensible because of SDS.
If they are nerfed, DICE should nerf their damage and trajectory.

The number of shots should be increased to about four for smoke.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber Yeah I forgot to mention AP nades too.
It is absolutely unreasonable to reduce the underbarrel nades to 1 each while also keeping their other values balanced around having 3.
Roadmay
New Ace
3 years ago
I couldn't believe they nerf this for one single map .
JWGrasli
New Adventurer
3 years ago
Agreed, totally unacceptable. It was balanced pretty fair before with not being too strong nor too weak just the sweetspot in between so please revert this DICE! 😃
For the other gadgets the changes was fine (SPH and Hand Grenades). But 40mm underbarrels no.