So I tried a Controller for a few days

I've been trying out a controller for the better part of this past week to see if Aim Assist is really that strong, it is.

One issue I had when playing against Console players is that they would shoot me before I could even see them. I believe one of the culprits for this is that you can actually track enemies behind the wall near the edges at times! It's especially noticeable when playing on the C objective of Redacted, you can actually fully track enemies through the thinner-walled structures. When I was complaining about Consoles feeling like they're on a different time line, or that PC players are placed behind them a tick, I think this contributed to that quite a bit. I still believe there is something up with Lag Compensation though. I'm kind of a night owl, and playing late at night becomes very frustrating.

There is near ZERO recoil with the weapons that I normally use, like the M5A3 and PP-29. With Smg's, I was confidently hitting targets that I wouldn't normally bother with. Less recoil also means less spread. Everything was a laser basically. With TTK being so low, this is a huge advantage.

Snap to Target and Rotational Assist are no joke when using a Shotgun, I RARELY missed a shot. I was using my alt account when testing this, and I managed to get 90.7% accuracy with the MCS-880! I didn't use it prior to using a Controller, and that accuracy is with over 200 kills. I'm definitely not that confident, or accurate with a mouse.

Overall, it just felt like I didn't have to concentrate as hard because the aiming was mostly taken care of. This allowed me to focus more on my movement, which let me play aggressively more confidently. I performed relatively similarly when switching back and forth, but I also have 1,000's of hours under my belt playing shooters with MnK.

Some thoughts for future balancing.

- Recoil should not be reduced by 25% for Controller players. Maybe 10-15%, but 2042 already having fairly low recoil to begin with, 25% reduction seems like a bit much.

- Snap to Target should be reverted to either what previous BF games had or somewhere in between 2042 and BFV.

- Rotational assist should NOT track through ANY walls, or the edge of walls. I don't think that this was intended, but this really needs to get cleaned up.

It was an interesting experience. I think it's easier for new players, especially using iron sights to land shots when using a Controller. It can take several hours to get acclimated with how aiming works in a new Shooter game when using MnK. Regarding Crossplay, I think that it's less of an issue now and it has more to do with how the different assist are tuned.

discussion

46 Replies

sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
@RaginSam

I don't see EA/DICE doing anything about this because after all its intentional. The only reprieve is cross play off, then contend with the empty servers.
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@RaginSam Thanks for taking the hit to give it a shot. I only tried it very briefly after launch when the mouse controls got screwed up (and before a fix was posted). Out of curiosity what settings were you using, as I believe there's various strengths/toggles/sliders for it?
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Anobix Default except for the sensitivity, I bumped that up a little bit.
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@RaginSam Thanks for sharing your comparative views on it. PC players hear about these things with controllers but don’t take the time to try it out.

Were you playing with a controller on PC or were you on a console?
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@sk1lld wrote:
@RaginSam

I don't see EA/DICE doing anything about this because after all its intentional. The only reprieve is cross play off, then contend with the empty servers.
Even with Crossplay off, people on PC can use Controllers. That's what I was doing.
This late in the games life, I doubt they would make any changes too. Especially if you take away what people are used to now. I just wrote this to share my experience.
I would care even less about how the different aim assist were tuned if there was more to the game then just trying to win your 1v1's. Like if there was more depth to how you won a match, and that translated to more of an accomplished feeling. If that makes any sense? I've been playing with some people on Console, and it's been fun. Obviously I never had an issue with Console players on any personal level, it just felt like they would kill me instantly a lot of times. Which is partly due to the reduced recoil, head shot multipliers, and low TTK.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ATFGunrThanks! On PC.
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@RaginSam It’s more interesting to me then that a PC can still have all the other graphical controls and the advantages of a controller. Seems like a big advantage?
kregora
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@RaginSam Thanks for testing.
In my opinion, players that play by different rules, should not play together. I don't mind what settings they change, as long as crossplay is purely opt-in in the next Battlefield title.
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@kregora wrote:
@RaginSamThanks for testing.
In my opinion, players that play by different rules, should not play together. I don't mind what settings they change, as long as crossplay is purely opt-in in the next Battlefield title.
Honestly, if we have crossplay next game (which I would expect):
1) Whatever lag is being introduced due to the crossplay features needs to be resolved. I don't play many crossplay games, but from what I understand (outside of those complaining about Auto-aim etc) it seems less complained about for other games concerning latency/lag between systems.
2) There needs to be available M+KB support for consoles (which other games already support)
3) If the reason for the crappy low-tick servers is because of crossplay (and not some cost-cutting measure) then I imagine moving to 60-100tick would make a big difference for many.
xVulture
2 years ago
@RaginSam
Now the true test would be for you to test this on console and determine if things are the same.
Not to argue, but, many console players have posted how little the snap, aim assist, etc actually affect their game. At best it is hit or miss that it works at all and can even be a hindrance in some cases.
Kudos for hooking up the controller to your pc, but it is only a partial experiment.