Objective spawn points are absolutely broken at the moment.There's absolutely no chance to spawn on an objective to defend it, because there will be 5 enemies looking at you, because the game decided to spawn you out in the open with 0 cover.I don't know what Dice was thinking or if any of the people responsible for this actually played their own game. This needs to be addressed asap. It's no fun to spawn in and die instantly because the game put you in front of 5 enemies without any cover to take.

@Boyler73i think it's worse that the spawn points seem semi-static.When people sit in vehicles on the field right behind D1 on renewal and wait for people to spawn at the corner of the building so they can mow down respawns as you said, that's a problem.It's a general problem in a lot of maps as has been said here already, not just on respawns, there's giant gaps between a lot of the objectives on all maps where you basically have to cross open ground and become vehicle bait unless you have a vehicle of your own.

@EA_BlueberryThis is my observation for Breakthru:The worst map since Thursday is Renewal > when I thinking about the first two points, I get flashbacks to BF3/B4, it comes close to a lockdown in your own spawn.The defenders can get way to close to your main spawn and if there is a little unbalance you are not able to get out and capture both points.This layout is ridiculous.Also, on every map I played since Thursday I have observed the same Issues as OP.If you have an own point that will captured by the enemy and you spawn on it, there is a very high chance (60%-70%) that you standing direct in front of enemies or in the open as a living target for everyone.

@EA_Blueberry almost all the maps have objectives where you spawn to the side of the objective, instead of behind it towards your own spawn.Renewal is a perfect example, if you own D1 or D2 (C128) as RU, you spawn to the sides of the buildings. D1 is the worst as you spawn in an open field where the enemy who may be capping that point just mow you down instantly.Orbital - For Breakthrough, US side for B1 spawns to the north of the facility (instead of behind it - East) right where enemy is attacking the point. They can camp the hill above you and just take you out instantly as you spawn.D1 for Orbital, you spawn in the open field to the North instead of behind cover to the east or west, depending on who owns it.Breakaway - At the oil rig, you spawn off to the side of the rig with no cover instead of in front or behind it depending on what faction you are on.Kaleidoscope - E1 and E2 - you spawn in the wide open to the side of the point, especially E2, when you spawn to the North. Easy pickins.Hourglass - basically every spawn as the entire map has zero cover.

Absolutely agreeJust played renewal US team and even when we held objective D1 and D2, when I spawned on them, I'd be put on the North East Side of the building. Directly in front of opposing base where there are 2/3 enemy vehicles ready to bust me up miles away from cover

You are absolutely right @Fringerunner ,The root cause of this problem is that there appear only to be one or two fixed spawn points for each flag/sector we may be able to spawn into. So not like 4-6 different spawn points available for each flag/sector as we have always had in previous BF games. Where then some game logic system is checking to see which of these 4-6 alternative spawn points is:where you have most of your own friendlies aroundwhere you have least of enemies just next to youwhere you have some level of protectionSo to enable a reasonable spawn point, where you are not just mowed down by enemies right as you spawn in. The current kill-harvesting by folks camping in a vehicle just at a singular enemy spawn point is horrible lazy game design.

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ProDeMatrix
4 years ago
Yep youre right.
Half of the spawns at a objective I spawned next to the objective or you spawned in a wide open space or need to cross the wide open space and will be shoted...
Boyler73
4 years ago
Absolutely agree
Just played renewal US team and even when we held objective D1 and D2, when I spawned on them, I'd be put on the North East Side of the building. Directly in front of opposing base where there are 2/3 enemy vehicles ready to bust me up miles away from cover
Fringerunner
4 years ago
@Boyler73i think it's worse that the spawn points seem semi-static.

When people sit in vehicles on the field right behind D1 on renewal and wait for people to spawn at the corner of the building so they can mow down respawns as you said, that's a problem.
It's a general problem in a lot of maps as has been said here already, not just on respawns, there's giant gaps between a lot of the objectives on all maps where you basically have to cross open ground and become vehicle bait unless you have a vehicle of your own.
CyberDyme
4 years ago
You are absolutely right @Fringerunner ,
The root cause of this problem is that there appear only to be one or two fixed spawn points for each flag/sector we may be able to spawn into. So not like 4-6 different spawn points available for each flag/sector as we have always had in previous BF games. Where then some game logic system is checking to see which of these 4-6 alternative spawn points is:
where you have most of your own friendlies around
where you have least of enemies just next to you
where you have some level of protection
So to enable a reasonable spawn point, where you are not just mowed down by enemies right as you spawn in.
The current kill-harvesting by folks camping in a vehicle just at a singular enemy spawn point is horrible lazy game design.
EA_Blueberry
Community Manager
4 years ago
@Boyler73 wrote:

Absolutely agree

Just played renewal US team and even when we held objective D1 and D2, when I spawned on them, I'd be put on the North East Side of the building. Directly in front of opposing base where there are 2/3 enemy vehicles ready to bust me up miles away from cover

Can you all be specific on what map, mode, and objective you see trouble spawning without being immediately shot? We'll relay it to the team. We need specifics on stuff like this though so the team knows what spawns to look at.

Thanks,
madgopher01
4 years ago
agree the y need random scatter spawns , not area spawn where if you put guys on 3 sides they always spawn into crossfire
Fringerunner
4 years ago
@EA_BlueberryNortheast/southeast corners of the D1/D2 nodes (in the building complex) on renewal, to be specific the grassy area northeast between the building and field and the parking lot/border of the farmland area southeast.

Happens in both AOW game modes, if the building is contested and you respawn on either point, you'll generally end up spawning in one of those two relatively close zones and parking a vehicle or some infantry at either side is a good way to make sure nobody can reinforce the points via respawns. (NE is safer due to the south side of the building being open and you can lob anti-armor at things without needing to get exposed on the roof).

So far that's one that's really stood out, especially in breakthrough due to the troop concentration in a small area.
Edit: as for maps which spawn you in the open and leave no cover that's a whole other list, if it's actually wanted i'm sure we can note spots and report them as well.
RAMBO2k9
4 years ago
I’ve spawned in front of a moving enemies tank and was ran over before I could even reacts i just laugh to myself when it happens.
MTLMortis
4 years ago
@EA_Blueberry There's no need to be specific as it happens on all maps and in all modes.

There's a lot of posts about being spawned in directly in front of enemies.

Let's not forget the lack of being able to scroll in on the deploy map.
master_daffy83
4 years ago
@flaversaver If you are trying to spawn at a point with no cover, you could try temp switching to the specialist that can place down the cover shields.