I know it may be an unpopular opinion and that it may not take effect in 2042, but they should split up PC's from consoles in the next game at least if they are going to keep cross play. The spec difference and ease of use for PC's in comparison to consoles leads to an edge that most console players who play for fun can't overcome and therefore discourages them from continuing to play.Whether it's a hard split or something else to level the playing field, I'd love to see other ideas or things implemented.

@RaginSam I will never be convinced that it's a good idea, PCs should never, EVER have any sort of aim-assist period, in a FPS shooter.

@UP_LordPlumber I think the difference is that AA was in the games from the beginning, however they did not play against PC, only each other. 2042 is the first true cross platform in the series, where next Gen consoles and PC all play together. As we can clearly see, it’s a mess and isn’t working. 2042 started out with consoles at a reduced level, (either by accident or on purpose only the devs can say) and so we all got used to it sowkring a certain way. S2 brought a major tweak to it, and it was immediately noticeable for PC players who now get melted by consoles who don’t miss. If a PC player had the advantages that consoles are fed, we’d accuse them of hacking. Aim assist, snap, and reduced recoil? Who wouldn’t want that? Now add to that the atrocious desync the game has, and it’s not really a lot of fun. Unless and until Dice resets PC to turn cross play off, PC players will never find a community to play with that are equal. Giving consoles M&K would be a good start, but now thousands of console players couldn’t sit on the couch, and they paid for that privilege and should not have it taken away. Anyway my earlier point was about the inability of the netcode to sync all the platforms and I stand by my opinion.

I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.

@RaginSam wrote:@AngrySquid270 wrote:I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.Look at the statistics. I have triple the hours you do, but you outperform me in HS% with a lot of the hard to use smgs with a controller! I’m using a super light x on a 20” mousepad with low sensitivity. I sit at a desk with a low latency monitor.My 122 kills with the K30 isn't a meaningful sample size; that's a junk data point.For our most used SMG, the MP9, we have identical HS% at 20.3%..Here's what those stats also say.My MP9 hipfire kill% = 2.9%Your MP9 hipfire kill% = 21.4%You go for hipfire kills 7x more than I do, yet we still have the same HS%. Yet you claim this as evidence that Aim Assist is out of control in favor of console? Further I'm probably an outlier among consoler players. I've been playing the franchise for 20+ years. I trade everything for accuracy control. I run low sensitivity. I run the minimum FoV. All my attachment choices are for accuracy. And as mentioned I rarely hipfire. Compare my accuracy stats to the next 5 console players that kill you; I'd guess mine are better.Let's look at another stat. KDR between BFV and BF2042.I went from a 2.8 KDR in BFV to a 2.09 in BF2042You went from a 3.16 KDR in BFV to a 5.14 in BF2042.And yet you are claiming to be the victim of crossplay?Just split the consoles from PC. Neither side will ever see it as fair, the debates are just emotion and hyperbole from both sides. Have the last word.

@Ironhead841 The complaining goes both ways. Pc players do it too. Easiest solution is to let pc be it's own thing and let xbox and playstation have cross play with each other

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Ironhead841
Hero
3 years ago
I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the console guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" you acquiree merely by using a mouse and keyboard.
And how do you figure a PC is any easier to use than a console that has reduced recoil and aim-assist baked into it?
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@HairyPeechez The network issues are rumoured to be a result of cross play as well. Can you imagine having to code so PC, XBox and PS can all talk?? The aim assist consoles need, including a reduced recoil, to compete against m & k is also pretty sad and basically ends up as a EZ mode.
UP_LordPlumber
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ATFGunrAim assist and reduce recoil have been there for many years. As far as I know, BF1 had 70 or 75% of recoil on consoles compared to PC build.

Same goes for BF5 and yet people still complained that BF5 had too much recoil
And no, split is nothing happening. either everyone is together, or everyone is apart. Picking one over the other is bad for business. They will probably put real aimbot for nipple users like in CoD MW2 to make mk inferior
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber BFV had a lot of recoil I thought as a MnK player. I really think it should have been lower overall and that controller players shouldn’t get any reduced recoil.

@Ironhead841 You tell them! For real though, it’s been a new thread every other day.

I’m kind of a sweaty try hard with a pretty good system, peripherals, monitor, and I get smoked by console players jump shooting me while I’m behind cover all while anticipating them turning that exact corner. The overall latency of my setup is pretty freaking low… if there’s any magic, it’s on the console side.
HJ_Spacewar
3 years ago
@HairyPeechez I'm fine with keeping all platforms together but they need to fix the gunplay. Aim assist is wonky and inconsistent for consoles. Hit reg is a mess I think for all platforms. Call it what you want but since the last update (or maybe before) things have been inconsistent across the board when shooting.
HairyPeechez
3 years ago
I agree that the last update messed up quite a bit on my end, hit reg being the worst.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@UP_LordPlumber I think the difference is that AA was in the games from the beginning, however they did not play against PC, only each other. 2042 is the first true cross platform in the series, where next Gen consoles and PC all play together. As we can clearly see, it’s a mess and isn’t working. 2042 started out with consoles at a reduced level, (either by accident or on purpose only the devs can say) and so we all got used to it sowkring a certain way. S2 brought a major tweak to it, and it was immediately noticeable for PC players who now get melted by consoles who don’t miss. If a PC player had the advantages that consoles are fed, we’d accuse them of hacking. Aim assist, snap, and reduced recoil? Who wouldn’t want that? Now add to that the atrocious desync the game has, and it’s not really a lot of fun. Unless and until Dice resets PC to turn cross play off, PC players will never find a community to play with that are equal. Giving consoles M&K would be a good start, but now thousands of console players couldn’t sit on the couch, and they paid for that privilege and should not have it taken away. Anyway my earlier point was about the inability of the netcode to sync all the platforms and I stand by my opinion.
AngrySquid270
3 years ago
I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@AngrySquid270 wrote:
I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.
Look at the statistics. I have triple the hours you do, but you outperform me in HS% with a lot of the hard to use smgs with a controller! I’m using a super light x on a 20” mousepad with low sensitivity. I sit at a desk with a low latency monitor.
Some of my base accuracy is probably off a bit due to pre-firing, shooting out windows constantly, and other nonsense. I literally have to run extended mags on everything and drag my crosshair back and forth to find people’s hit boxes. Aim assist takes care of that for you.

If controller players think aim assist is nothing, try turning it off for a week. I promise you that your stats will plummet. I’ve watched pros struggle hard after turning it off and perform very average.

Whenever I look up stats, it’s almost always console players having higher accuracy rates than MnK players. That’s just not right.
AngrySquid270
3 years ago
@RaginSam wrote:
@AngrySquid270 wrote:
I hope they do too, mostly because I am tired of the constant bitching and whining about it from the PC guys, every other day there is some new thread about it or about these mysterious god-like "super-powers" granted by aim assist.
Look at the statistics. I have triple the hours you do, but you outperform me in HS% with a lot of the hard to use smgs with a controller! I’m using a super light x on a 20” mousepad with low sensitivity. I sit at a desk with a low latency monitor.
My 122 kills with the K30 isn't a meaningful sample size; that's a junk data point.
For our most used SMG, the MP9, we have identical HS% at 20.3%..
Here's what those stats also say.
My MP9 hipfire kill% = 2.9%
Your MP9 hipfire kill% = 21.4%
You go for hipfire kills 7x more than I do, yet we still have the same HS%. Yet you claim this as evidence that Aim Assist is out of control in favor of console?
Further I'm probably an outlier among consoler players. I've been playing the franchise for 20+ years. I trade everything for accuracy control. I run low sensitivity. I run the minimum FoV. All my attachment choices are for accuracy. And as mentioned I rarely hipfire. Compare my accuracy stats to the next 5 console players that kill you; I'd guess mine are better.
Let's look at another stat. KDR between BFV and BF2042.
I went from a 2.8 KDR in BFV to a 2.09 in BF2042
You went from a 3.16 KDR in BFV to a 5.14 in BF2042.
And yet you are claiming to be the victim of crossplay?
Just split the consoles from PC. Neither side will ever see it as fair, the debates are just emotion and hyperbole from both sides. Have the last word.